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Re: I think this is a bug

From: Anthony Ettinger <aettinger@sdsualumni.org>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 00:57:45 -0700
Message-ID: <3fc6b2fb0606080057r7a4be237p82378a02825f1f4@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz" <carlos.a.perez.m@gmail.com>
Cc: "olivier Thereaux" <ot@w3.org>, www-validator@w3.org

what is your application doing? you should only use get to retrieve data.

if it's a form, and they are entering data, definitely use post.


On 6/7/06, Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz <carlos.a.perez.m@gmail.com> wrote:
> That was fast.
>
> I have to think about your suggestion because using hidden fields changes
> them from GET to POST so I then will have to reprogram everything to use
> $_REQUEST in php instead of $_GET and $_POST
>
> Any response to this I'll read it later it's 2:22 my time.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> On 6/8/06, Anthony Ettinger <aettinger@sdsualumni.org> wrote:
> > don't pass parameters in the action, pass them as hidden fields.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/7/06, Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz <carlos.a.perez.m@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the tip but I already knew that, my problem was a
> > > missunderstanding of the part with the ? in my coding.
> > >
> > > I have another question:
> > > If I use this code:
> > > <form name='myForm'
> > >
> action='../SpecialFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End'
> > > onSubmit='return CheckData( this.form )' method='post'>
> > > and do the validation I get this response back:
> > >  Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML
> > > parser.
> > >    1. Warning Line 123 column 76: cannot generate system identifier for
> > > general entity "End".
> > >       ...alFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End'
> > > onSubmit='return CheckData( thi
> > >       An entity reference was found in the document, but there is no
> > > reference by that name defined. Often this is caused by misspelling the
> > > reference name, unencoded ampersands, or by leaving off the trailing
> > > semicolon (;). The most common cause of this error is unencoded
> ampersands
> > > in URLs as described by the WDG in "Ampersands in URLs".
> > >       Entity references start with an ampersand (&) and end with a
> semicolon
> > > (;). If you want to use a literal ampersand in your document you must
> encode
> > > it as "&amp;" (even inside URLs!). Be careful to end entity references
> with
> > > a semicolon or your entity reference may get interpreted in connection
> with
> > > the following text. Also keep in mind that named entity references are
> > > case-sensitive; &Aelig; and &aelig; are different characters.
> > >       If this error appears in some markup generated by PHP's session
> > > handling code, this article has explanations and solutions to your
> problem.
> > >       Note that in most documents, errors related to entity references
> will
> > > trigger up to 5 separate messages from the Validator. Usually these will
> all
> > > disappear when the original problem is fixed.
> > >    2. Error Line 123 column 76: general entity "End" not defined and no
> > > default entity.
> > >       ...alFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End'
> > > onSubmit='return CheckData( thi
> > >       This is usually a cascading error caused by a an undefined entity
> > > reference or use of an unencoded ampersand (&) in an URL or body text.
> See
> > > the previous message for further details.
> > >    3. Error Line 123 column 79: reference to entity "End" for which no
> > > system identifier could be generated.
> > >       ...eatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End'
> > > onSubmit='return CheckData( this.f
> > >       This is usually a cascading error caused by a an undefined entity
> > > reference or use of an unencoded ampersand (&) in an URL or body text.
> See
> > > the previous message for further details.
> > >    4. Info Line 123 column 75: entity was defined here.
> > >       ...ialFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End'
> > > onSubmit='return CheckData( th
> > >
> > > WHY IS THAT? If the code I use to send the validation is:
> > >
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://carlosccna.no-ip.org/SpecialFeatures/ContactForm.php&Debug=Off&End=End
> > > .
> > > with the simbol & IN IT has no errors Why is it an error when I use the
> &
> > > symbol in my code to send the data in the submit option?
> > >
> > > I already fix the page and changes the & to &amp; and it works a passes
> the
> > > validation.
> > >
> > > My question arises because I have been programming for 5 years and NOW
> is
> > > when I find that the & sign should not be used even though it gives no
> > > errors in the inter program communication.
> > >
> > > By the way the page now validates without errors.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your patience with this newbe in W3C standards.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/8/06, Anthony Ettinger < aettinger@sdsualumni.org > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://sislands.com/coin70/week6/encoder.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/7/06, Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz < carlos.a.perez.m@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I got you, I'll try and let you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/8/06, Anthony Ettinger < aettinger@sdsualumni.org > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > like i said, you need to url encode the string it's erroring out
> > > because there are two ?'s
> > > > > >
> > > > > > validate.w3c.org/?url= foo.com?a=1&b=2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > make sense? encode your string "foo.com?a=1&b=2 "
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 6/7/06, Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz <
> carlos.a.perez.m@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > In the test I have done, with IExplorer (yucks), I get an error
> thet
> > > the
> > > > > > > referer was not sent or found so I made the Javascript that
> handles
> > > the page
> > > > > > > sending.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you tell me why bother , as I stated in my initial report,
> What
> > > will
> > > > > > > hapen is somebody copies the given text (incomplete) into the
> > > browser, sends
> > > > > > > the requisition, and then my page (some of them) will NOT work?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  On 6/8/06, Anthony Ettinger < aettinger@sdsualumni.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > i'm guess you have to url encode the $ParaProg var in
> > > javascript...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > why bother with this anyway? add this to your footer if you
> want
> > > to
> > > > > > > > show you're w3c compliant html:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <a href="
> > > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
> > > > > > > > src=" http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-xhtml10 "
> > > alt="Valid
> > > > > > > XHTML 1.0!"
> > > > > > > > height="31" width="88"></a>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 6/7/06, Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz <
> > > carlos.a.perez.m@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > By the way this is my own site which I'm trying to make W3C
> > > compliant.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The uri is sent by clicking on the XHTML image within the
> page.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > this is the associated code in php:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > echo "    function ValidXHTML( ) {\n";
> > > > > > > > > echo "         window.open( '
> > > > > > > > > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http:// "
> .
> > > $_SERVER[
> > > > > > > > > 'SERVER_NAME' ] . $_SERVER[ 'SCRIPT_NAME' ] . "?$ParaProg',
> > > 'XHTML',
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> 'location=1,menubar=1,resizable=1,scrollbars=1,status=1,toolbar=1'
> > > > > > > > > );\n";
> > > > > > > > >  echo "    }\n";
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > which then translated into html becomes:
> > > > > > > > > function ValidXHTML( ) {
> > > > > > > > >  window.open( '
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://carlosccna.no-ip.org/SpecialFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End
> > > > > > > ',
> > > > > > > > > 'XHTML',
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> 'location=1,menubar=1,resizable=1,scrollbars=1,status=1,toolbar=1'
> > > > > > > > > );
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please notice that $ParaProg turns into Debug=Off&End=End
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I use this kind of parameters a lot in my programming to
> pass
> > > data from
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > page to another that is why I wondered what happened to the
> > > &End=End
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Waiting for your feedback.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 6/8/06, olivier Thereaux < ot@w3.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Carlos,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 8 Jun 2006, at 10:13, Carlos Alberto Pérez Muñoz wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://carlosccna.no-ip.org/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > SpecialFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Where did you get that URI?
> > > > > > > > > > If you want to validate
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://carlosccna..no-ip.org/SpecialFeatures/ContactForm.php
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > > Debug=Off&End=End
> > > > > > > > > > then the validation address is
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcarlosccna.no-ip.org%
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> 2FSpecialFeatures%2FContactForm.php%3FDebug%3DOff%26End%3DEnd
> > > > > > > > > > (which is what you'll get when pasting the address into
> the
> > > validator
> > > > > > > > > > form field)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you send this to the validator:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://carlosccna.no-ip.org/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > SpecialFeatures/ContactForm.php?Debug=Off&End=End
> > > > > > > > > > it will consider, rightfully so, the &End=End as a
> parameter
> > > for the
> > > > > > > > > > validator.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > olivier
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Carlos A. Pérez M.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > Programación de Páginas Web
> > > > > > > > > Especializado en Php, Javascript y MySql.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > Web Sites Programming
> > > > > > > > > Php, Javascripts & MySql Specialized
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Anthony Ettinger
> > > > > > > > Signature: http://chovy.dyndns.org/hcard.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carlos A. Pérez M.
> > > > > > >
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > Programación de Páginas Web
> > > > > > > Especializado en Php, Javascript y MySql.
> > > > > > >
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > Web Sites Programming
> > > > > > > Php, Javascripts & MySql Specialized
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anthony Ettinger
> > > > > > Signature: http://chovy.dyndns.org/hcard.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos A. Pérez M.
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Programación de Páginas Web
> > > > > Especializado en Php, Javascript y MySql.
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Web Sites Programming
> > > > > Php, Javascripts & MySql Specialized
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Anthony Ettinger
> > > > Signature: http://chovy.dyndns.org/hcard.html
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Carlos A. Pérez M.
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > Programación de Páginas Web
> > > Especializado en Php, Javascript y MySql.
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > Web Sites Programming
> > > Php, Javascripts & MySql Specialized
> >
> >
> > --
> > Anthony Ettinger
> > Signature: http://chovy.dyndns.org/hcard.html
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carlos A. Pérez M.
> --------------------------------------------------
> Programación de Páginas Web
> Especializado en Php, Javascript y MySql.
> --------------------------------------------------
> Web Sites Programming
> Php, Javascripts & MySql Specialized


-- 
Anthony Ettinger
Signature: http://chovy.dyndns.org/hcard.html
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