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Re: [VE][108] Error Message Feedback

From: David Dorward <david@dorward.me.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:54:16 +0000
To: Gavin Scott <gavin@bassplayer.co.uk>
Cc: www-validator@w3.org
Message-ID: <20041123135416.GB3316@us-lot.org>

On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 01:29:40PM +0000, Gavin Scott wrote:
>    I've also found it very hard to get definitive info on DTD, and must admit
>    to always pasting the same line in as I don't know what the alternatives
>    are.

http://w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html
http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html

>     There also seems to be endless warnings about not using code that is
>    too up to date, as only computers with the very latest browsers installed
>    will render it correctly. Is this a valid point?

HTML hasn't changed since 1999, and then not significantly. CSS hasn't
changed since 1998. Some browsers are somewhat buggy with certain
parts of CSS, but this is pretty well documented in various places
around the web and not difficult to work around.

>    As a Mac user, still stuck on OS9, even with the latest (or last)
>    versions of the various browsers installed I find many problems
>    viewing pages: even on Microsoft's IE site.

Unfortunately, OS9 never did see very good support from browsers, and
most of those browsers that are available there have dropped off the
list that most page authors care and/or know about. This is one of the
problems of being in a minority (and why I, as a Firefox user, am very
happy to see awareness of that browser being boosted so much lately).

Standards are a target for both page authors and user agent
authors. Those user agents available for OS9 are unfortunately
somewhat lacking in CSS support for the most part. Even Opera have
stopped development for that platform (although 6.03 (the last
available version) is a reasonably good browser as I recall).

(On an entirely off topic note, you might like to investigate Linux
PPC as a replacement for OS9. This would let you run at least
Konqueror and Firefox)

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David Dorward                                      http://dorward.me.uk
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