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Re: Please change validator pages to UTF-8

From: Terje Bless <link@pobox.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 21:03:12 +0200
To: W3C Validator <www-validator@w3.org>
cc: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
Message-ID: <r02000000-1026-291093E8AE5211D794590030657B83E8@[193.157.66.23]>

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Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org> wrote:

>I was quite surprised to see that the main validator page (and probably
>others) are still iso-8859-1 (see e.g.
>http://webtools.mozilla.org/web-sniffer/view.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%
>2Fvalidator. w3.org%2F). This leads to problems when validating IRIs
>and, once we support that, IDNs.
>
>All validator output is UTF-8, and there is no reason to have the input
>be something else.

Well, that's a good point; but the main reason the pages are still iso-8859-1
is that older browsers had trouble with UTF-8. This was also the reason for
nuking some "fancy quotes" scattered around the site.

What I've been thinking is that 0.6.x should keep compatibility with these
browsers -- which is Netscape 3.x, _not_ 4.x, BTW :-) -- and then revisit the
issue for 0.7. Most likely -- unless I'm persuaded otherwise again -- 0.7 will
be all UTF-8 and freely making use of "Unicode" features (such as the
mentioned typographical quote marks).


Part of the reason for this is that around 0.7 we need to take a long hard
look at what backwards compatibility we want to invest resources in
supporting; as well as what width of platforms to support. e.g. how old
"standard" linux distros do we want to support, and whether or not we want to
support Win32; in which case we need to actually resolve all the issues with
that platform. Win32 in particular is difficult since we don't have a working
SGML/XML Parser on that platform. Björn has made quite a bit of progress on
that, but I don't know how much time/opportunity he has to keep working at it
(and it's a bear of task too).

( BTW, Björn, I can probably arrange for access to a Win32 box with the Visual
Foo tools for you if that would help. )

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