Re: Charset Trouble

From: Martin Duerst (duerst@w3.org)
Date: Tue, Jun 12 2001

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    Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:23:21 +0900
    To: Terje Bless <link@tss.no>, "Parker D. Smith" <uselessness@yahoo.com>
    From: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
    Cc: www-validator@w3.org
    Subject: Re: Charset Trouble
    
    Just for the record:
    
    http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets actually defines
    
    Name: macintosh                                           [RFC1345,KXS2]
    MIBenum: 2027
    Source: The Unicode Standard ver1.0, ISBN 0-201-56788-1, Oct 1991
    Alias: mac
    Alias: csMacintosh
    
    and iconv (on validator) supports it, so changing 'x-mac-roman'
    to 'macintosh' should pass the validator. But that doesn't mean that
    the browsers will do the right thing; they might not understand it.
    So in practice, Terje's advice below is what should be followed, I guess.
    
    Regards,   Martin.
    
    At 08:25 01/05/27 +0200, Terje Bless wrote:
    >On 10.05.01 at 22:48, Parker D. Smith <uselessness@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    > >I like to use the W3C HTML validator to check web
    > >pages that I write on my Macintosh computer, but it
    > >stopped recognizing my charset for some reason.
    >
    >We have recently replaced the way we do charset decoding and this is very
    >likely what made it stop recognizing your charset.
    >
    >
    > >This is the x-mac-roman charset, a very common one on computers of this
    > >type.
    >
    >MacRoman bears many similarities to ISO Latin 1; perhaps you could use
    >"ISO-8859-1" encoding for your documents? Alternately, you could restrict
    >yourself to plain US-ASCII and use character entity references (&#2880;) to
    >get the glyphs you want. Any decent text editor for web work will assist
    >you in this. For Mac OS I'd reccomend BBEdit from Bare Bones Software; a
    >truly outstanding tool and irreplaceable for anyone doing web work or
    >programming on Mac OS! <URL:http://www.barebones.com/>.
    >
    >
    > >I do not know how to change the charset to make it more agreeable with the
    > >validator program, but there was a message on the error page that
    > >suggested I send a message to this list and ask that it be expanded to
    > >include this charset.
    > >
    > >So this is what I am doing. I would like x-mac-roman charset support in
    > >future versions of the www-validator.
    >
    >It's unlikely that we will add support for X-Mac-Roman, but you should be
    >able to achieve your goal without it. If you run into trouble with the
    >conversion you could try asking for advice on
    ><URL:news:comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html> or one of the many
    >mailinglists devoted to the topic.