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Re: CSS3 Validation Service - @keyframes and animation

From: Jasdeep Khalsa <jasdeep@sikher.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:17:42 +0100
Message-ID: <CAEbbBTN+xYABOMmOLfEDiiDM+ZKkyi2GVobZAbQ7AE=8ZRcGbA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi>
Cc: www-validator-css@w3.org
Hi Yucca,

Many thanks for your email - it has been very enlightening for
me. Especially about W3Schools sometimes misrepresenting W3C standards - I
think many people do not know this.

And even though I understand CSS3 is not an official W3C standard yet, the
fact that the validator allows you to test a CSS document against some CSS3
specifications but not others is a little confusing for me as a user.

Similarly, the validator at http://validator.w3.org allows you to test the
validity of HTML5 documents but clearly explains that HTML5 validator is
"experimental".

Perhaps the same note can be added to the CSS3 validator just so its more
clear that CSS3 is not yet an official standard to people using it? :) Just
a gentle suggestion which I think would help people like me to realise the
specification is still in a very draft stage.

Thanks for your time Yucca!

Jasdeep.

On 12 September 2012 10:05, Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote:

> 2012-09-09 11:05, Jasdeep Khalsa wrote:
>
>  I have been trying to check the conformity of some CSS3 stylesheets and
>> I believe the W3C CSS validator must be a little out of date since using
>> valid mark-up for the CSS3 animation property returns "Property
>> animation doesn't exist"
>>
>
> There is really no CSS3. There is a collection of documents of varying
> maturity, collectively called CSS3. Everyone and his brother has a little
> different idea of what documents are included. One view is that CSS3
> documents are those listed at
> http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/**current-work.en.html<http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work.en.html>
> But regarding the validator, many documents there are so incomplete
> drafts, or marked as "abandoned", "dangerously outdated", or otherwise
> questionable for the purposes of validation.
>
> One idea that I read somewhere is that only documents with CR level or
> higher should be included. Yet, the validator recognizes many properties
> defined in WD level documents only. But not all of them.
>
> The only documentation about the properties actually recognized by the
> validator in its default mode, CSS3, appears to be in the changelogs: by
> visiting
> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/**css-validator/org/w3c/css/**
> properties/CSS3Properties.**properties<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/css-validator/org/w3c/css/properties/CSS3Properties.properties>
> and "downloading" (i.e., opening) the newest revision one can see the list
> of properties.
>
>
>  even though it is implemented in Firefox 5+,
>> Chrome, Safari and Opera with -moz-, -webkit-, -webkit- and -o- prefixed
>> respectively.
>>
>
> The W3C CSS Validator checks against W3C documents called
> "specifications", not against implementations. How the "specifications"
> relate to implementations is a different issue.
>
>
>  My point of reference has been the W3C Schools website:
>>
>
> It's unsuitable as reference, learning material, and other purposes. And
> not just because it intentionally misrepresents itself in a manner that
> suggests some affiliation with the W3C. See http://w3fools.com.
>
> Yucca
>



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