AW: AW: work on url for television started

From: Henning Timcke (henning.timcke@werft22.com)
Date: Wed, Oct 21 1998


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From: Henning Timcke <henning.timcke@werft22.com>
To: "'Rob Glidden'" <robg@quadramix.com>, Simon Gibbs <simon@arch.sel.sony.com>
Cc: "www-tv@w3.org" <www-tv@w3.org>, Philipp Hoschka <Philipp.Hoschka@sophia.inria.fr>, Rodger Lea <rodger@arch.sel.sony.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:02:40 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: work on url for television started

Rob:
I will try
Where do I find information about data carousels ?
Henning



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von:	Rob Glidden [SMTP:robg@quadramix.com]
Gesendet am:	Mittwoch, 21. Oktober 1998 19:25
An:	Henning Timcke; Simon Gibbs
Cc:	www-tv@w3.org; Philipp Hoschka; Rodger Lea
Betreff:	Re: AW: work on url for television started

Henning:

Yes, I think assistance would be helpful. Could you elaborate a little on
how XML could meet these kinds of requirements?

1) "referencing cache data"  -- in transient caches and data carousels

2) "querying caches"  -- to determine what is currently in them and
available

3) "supporting session management"  -- i.e. identifying, launching,
subscribing, terminating multiple streaming sessions.

I think a key challenge if finding the right level of abstraction -- some
people think of all this a high-level, authoring issue, some think of it as
low level exposing of the syntax of things like MPEG transport streams.

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Henning Timcke <henning.timcke@werft22.com>
To: Simon Gibbs <simon@arch.sel.sony.com>
Cc: www-tv@w3.org <www-tv@w3.org>; Philipp Hoschka
<Philipp.Hoschka@sophia.inria.fr>; Rodger Lea <rodger@arch.sel.sony.com>;
'Rob Glidden' <robg@quadramix.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 1:54 PM
Subject: AW: AW: work on url for television started


>Hi Simon
>As far as I can see: your requirements can be met with XML.
>Please let me know if we can be of assistance in working this out.
>Henning
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Rob Glidden [SMTP:robg@quadramix.com]
>Gesendet am: Montag, 19. Oktober 1998 03:37
>An: Simon Gibbs; Henning Timcke
>Cc: www-tv@w3.org; Philipp Hoschka; Rodger Lea
>Betreff: Re: AW: work on url for television started
>
>Throwing in a generic look at URIs, namespaces, and "looking into" a
>resource to see what it contains:
>
>"Namespaces in XML" World Wide Web Consortium Working Draft
>16-September-1998
>
>at
>http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xml-names
>
>This is a proposed general solution to using URIs in namespaces, which
could
>be a way to "point into" resources.
>
>This "pointing into"/namespace could be a "channel space", stream, or data
>cache.  This may be a more flexible tool than URIs alone (particularly if
>you assume that the resource pointed into could contain structured data
>itself, say an XML data structure).
>
>Rather than hardwire all possible resources, available
>sessions/sessions/stream/cache resources may need to be queryable, and the
>namespace identifier may need to be separable from the authored content.
>
>Such an approach may offer greater flexibility, authorability, and resource
>abstraction.
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Simon Gibbs <simon@arch.sel.sony.com>
>To: Henning Timcke <henning.timcke@werft22.com>
>Cc: www-tv@w3.org <www-tv@w3.org>; Philipp Hoschka
><Philipp.Hoschka@sophia.inria.fr>; Rodger Lea <rodger@arch.sel.sony.com>
>Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:06 PM
>Subject: Re: AW: work on url for television started
>
>
>>Henning Timcke wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry
>>> This problem is already solved with UR*.
>>> There is no difference between a local device and broadcast device.
>>
>>Well  - there's alot of difference between a local device anda broadcast
>device. For one, broadcast devices deliver ATSC
>>or DVB
>>or DSS ... MPEG-2 transport streams (not worrying about analog
>>for the moment). Local devices may or may not - depends what
>>type of device we're dealing with. Another difference, broadcast
>>transport streams have unique names based on things like
>>network ids and service ids - this does not simply carry over
>>for in-home content.
>>
>>> It is no problem to give every device an IP.
>>
>>Are you saying it's no problem to give my camcorder, DVD playeretc an IP
>address? It may be no problem imagining that
>>every
>>device in the house has an IP address - but this is different
>>from reality: many existing home-networkable AV products
>>are not IP-based, and many CE companies are working
>>on non-IP architectures for home networking.
>>
>>Simon
>>
>>
>
>