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Re: The Standards Manifesto

From: Leonid Ototsky <leo@mmk.ru>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:00:59 +0600
Message-ID: <1334.020523@mmk.ru>
To: Aaron Swartz <me@aaronsw.com>
CC: www-rdf-interest@w3.org, www-talk@w3.org, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>
Hello Aaron,

Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:07:32 PM, you wrote:

Things I'd like to see developed in this model:
  * RDF-Model (a clean version of N-Triples)
  * RDF-Logic (a FOL system with URIs)
  * RDF-Query (a standardized API and syntax for managing RDF)
  * RDF-Sites (an outline for how RDF fits with HTTP).
  ========================================================

Suppose it will be helpful for the "core team" to look at some more
deep foundation for the "Triple model" . It is founded on an
"assembly" of the Classification Theory, Measurement Theory ,
Semiotics etc. There are some comments in my paper "To keep abreast of
the 21st century". I have put an English version on my site under "the
IT papers" --> "For CIO" item.

Regards,
Leonid
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Leonid Ototsky,
http://ototsky.mgn.ru
Chief Specialist of the Computer Center,
Magnitogorsk Iron&Steel Works (MMK)- www.mmk.ru
Russia
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AS> I'm fed up.

AS> The W3C has been taken over by corporations with only selfish interests
AS> at heart. The Web services people swallow resources for an goal
AS> antithetical to Web Architecture. The XML people shoehorn data into a
AS> format meant for documents and reinvent several wheels doing so. The RDF
AS> people are afraid to do anything worthwhile with the power of their
AS> technology and instead worry for no good reason about
AS> backwards-compatibility. And the W3T sits quietly, afraid to do anything
AS> to remedy the situation.

AS> I'm not going to take it anymore.

AS> W3C-style standards bodies clearly aren't working anymore. Perhaps they
AS> made sense in the old days of the browser wars, but we're no longer
AS> getting innovation from Working Groups who have so many members that
AS> they have to form subgroups to decide what they're going to do about
AS> deciding what they're going to do.

AS> I humbly suggest a solution, based on comments from TimBL, SimonStl and
AS> many others:

AS>   * Desiging the specs are a small independent core team of people who
AS> really know their stuff and are concerned about simplicity and the Right
AS> Thing.

AS>   * Assisting them is an open group who contributes to the spec-writing
AS> and application-testing, letting the core team focus on the design.

AS>   * Overseeing things and making "arbitrary" decisions is a
AS> widely-respected member of the community.

AS> This is, perhaps, the way W3C originally worked, but most of the time it
AS> doesn't work like this anymore. I've left out the details of the process
AS> to keep this message short. If there is interest I will make them
AS> clearer.

AS> Things I'd like to see developed in this model:
AS>   * RDF-Model (a clean version of N-Triples)
AS>   * RDF-Logic (a FOL system with URIs)
AS>   * RDF-Query (a standardized API and syntax for managing RDF)
AS>   * RDF-Sites (an outline for how RDF fits with HTTP).

AS> Each of these should be relatively simple specifications, and easy to
AS> make if this plan works out how as I imagine.

AS> While such groups may use W3C (or any other group's) resources, like
AS> web-space and telecon-bridges, it must be clear that they are not bound
AS> by W3C process and are not responsible to the membership.

AS> I am willing to invest a my time into making this happen and am
AS> interested in collaborators. Please your feedback to me or <www-
talk@w3.org>> and thanks for your time.

AS> --
AS> Aaron Swartz [http://www.aaronsw.com/]




Best regards,
 Leonid
mailto:leo@mmk.ru and copy to leo@mgn.ru
Received on Thursday, 23 May 2002 00:01:24 GMT

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