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Re: WWW: Interoperability Crisis?

From: Sean B. Palmer <sean@mysterylights.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:10:52 -0000
Message-ID: <041a01c084b7$e3542cc0$d7dc93c3@z5n9x1>
To: "David Meadows" <david@heroes.force9.co.uk>, "Aaron Swartz" <aswartz@swartzfam.com>, <www-talk@w3.org>
Cc: <www-html@w3.org>
> Don't think about what <img> IS, think about what it DOES.

I think you mean that the other way round... <img> is a tag that references
an external object. What does it do? It has a proprietary behaviour
attached to it: display this image. The "do" is what corrupted the "is".

> How is this an abuse of SGML? What do SGML entities do?
> How is an <img> substitution any different?

How can you compare an SGML entity to an <img> tag? (easy, I just wrote...)
An entity is part of the syntax of SGML, not a function for use in HTML to
include images (side note: they did originally think of bringing the image
file in and referencing it as if it were existent in the file, but markup
won over. Then people just used that markup to bring in the file...ugh).

> the holy grail of separation of content and presentation isn't
> the great idea that people think it is?

BTW: What text equivalent would *you* use for the Mona Lisa? I think you
should look in your dictionary for a definition of presentation [1]. Maybe
we are using it in a different context.

[1] NOT implying that you have it wrong, only that we use it differently...

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Kindest Regards,
Sean B. Palmer
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