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Re: URL Expansion proposal

From: Matthew James Marnell <marnellm@portia.portia.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 02:42:46 -0500
Message-Id: <199601150742.CAA20454@portia.portia.com>
To: idelrio@abstraction.com (Israel del Rio)
Cc: "Adam M. Donahue" <donahue@acf2.nyu.edu>, www-talk@w3.org
:
:>Um, hello...  that's what a domain name is to begin with.  What lies 
:>behind nyu.edu, for instance, is the IP address 128.122.128.*  That's the 
:>"alpha phrase" (as you put it) for this IP address.  But it's better than 
:>that, it's also an online phone book.  I'm beginning to wonder if you're 
:>not technically inept, and thus frustrated because it took _you_ so long 
:>to grasp the idea.  Man, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
:>
:Adam, if thinking me extremely inept helps you heighten your dubious self-worth, 
:be my guest. Understanding the URL concept is not that difficult; but 
:understanding that computers ougth to adapt to actual people and not to 
:technical snobs is something you have yet to learn.  

Um, hello, can we kindly move this part of the discussion elsewhere.

First, wouldn't the URL belong on another forum?

Second, if user agent concerns and usability concerns are at the
fore as far as you're concerned, write a browser that implements it,
and if it works, which, from comments, many doubt it will, all the
other browser makers will be tripping over themselves to implement
it.

As far as Unix and DNS goes, there are at least a hundred good
news groups and mailing lists to go to to try to get one or the
other changed, inquiries on the workings thereof, etc.

Can we put this stupid thread to bed already.  It really could care
less about either of your skill levels as far as (DNS|URL|URI|URN|
User Interface|Usability) goes.

The UR* expansion proposal is an agent/client concern.  It is not
an overall WWW concern.  It's like Unix shells, most do wildcard
expansion, some do <Tab> completions.  Neither is better or worse,
but it's at the shell level, not the Unix level.

And, as far as usabily goes, how many people bother to type in
URL's?  Seriously folks, is this a programmer trying to think
like a user, which has been shown not to work 1000X over.  Most
users I know use some starting point, like yahoo, or something their
service provider sets up and clicks away from there, rarely ever
typing in URL's themselves.  If they need to remember it, click
on bookmark and they're off to somewhere else.  Me, I type in URLs
all the time, but it's part of the jab description.  I type in fewer
URL's now than I did even 3 months ago.

How big a problem is this really?  and is it worth stooping to this
level over?

Matt
Received on Monday, 15 January 1996 02:44:08 GMT

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