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From: Kee Hinckley <nazgul@utopia.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:20:22 -0500
Message-Id: <v02130500acc540115670@[]>
To: Daniel DuBois <ddubois@rafiki.spyglass.com>
Cc: www-talk@www10.w3.org
At 10:14 AM 11/7/95, Daniel DuBois wrote:
>>that this browser supports '<p align=center>' and that this browser
>>supports tables but not percentage widths, and this one supports tables
>>within tables but not with forms in them; I'm going to have to keep doing
>>browser-based presentation.
>Does anyone REALLY need that level of detail?  Are you telling me you have 8
>different parallel documents for each tabled page, one with forms and
>subtables and width, one with forms and subtables but no widths,  one with
>forms but no subtables and no widths, etc?!?  I can't beleive it.

If we want our documents to look their best, no matter what the browser,
yes we need it.  We don't do it via paralell documents though, that would
be a royal pain.  Here's a sample (from http://www.salemfive.com/)

#if TableWidth
    <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="100%" border=0><tr><td align=left>
    <a href="virtualbanking.html"><img align=left
src="/uimages/salemfive/vbankicon.gif" border=0 alt=""></a>
    <a href="virtualbanking.html">
    <br>Online bill-paying, homebanking and more.
    <br>Your first three months are free.</b>
    <td align=right>
    <b><a href="mortcoupon.html">$#$CSAVE# Off<br>Mortgage Closing
Costs!</a><br>Internet Users Only</b>
#if SideAlign
    <img align=left src="/uimages/salemfive/buttonspace2.gif" width=250
height=1 alt=" ">
    <a href="virtualbanking.html">
    <img align=left src="/uimages/salemfive/vbankicon.gif" border=0 alt=""></a>
    <b><a href="virtualbanking.html">Introducing VirtualBanking</a>
    <br>Online bill-paying, homebanking and more.
    <br>Your first three months are free.</b><br>
    <br clear=all>
    <b><a href="mortcoupon.html">$#$CSAVE# Off<br>Mortgage Closing
Costs!</a><br>Internet Users Only</b>

or later on

#elif TextOnly

    <dt><b><a href="virtualbanking.html">VirtualBanking</a>
    <dd>Online bill-paying, homebanking and more.
    <br>Your first three months are free.</b>
    <dt> <a href="special.html"><b>Specials</b></a>
    <dd> #$SPECIAL#<br><b><i> -- for on-line customers only!</i></b>
        <b><a href="mortcoupon.html">$#$CSAVE# Off Mortgage Closing Costs!</a> -
- Internet Users Only</b>
    <dt> <a href="welcome.html"><b>Welcome</b></a>
    <dd> #$WELCOME#
    <dt> <a href="personal.html"><b>Personal Banking Services</b></a>
    <dd> #$PERSONAL#
    <dt> <a href="alternative.html"><b>Alternative Delivery Systems</b></a>
    <dd> #$ALTERNATIVE#
    <dt> <a href="business.html"><b>Business Banking Options</b></a>
    <dd> #$BUSINESS#
    <dt> <a href="calcs.html"><b>Interactive Calculators</b></a>
    <dd> #$CALCS#

>Just pick a relatively low-level, common, spec-compliant table format, and
>send it to everyone.  People using Cello 1.0 will be screwed but so what.

It all depends on whether you want things to look the best possible or just
somewhere in the middle.

>It's these da#& user-agent-negotiation people (YAHOO - THIS MEANS YOU) that
>are still sending me non-table versions even though Spyglass Mosaic 2.1 does
>tables very well thank you.  Quite annoying.

Where does Spyglass publish a list of features it does and doesn't support?

Kee Hinckley      Utopia Inc. - Cyberspace Architects    617.768.5500
nazgul@utopia.com                               http://www.utopia.com/

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
Received on Tuesday, 7 November 1995 12:25:50 UTC

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