Re: W3C URN scheme 'root' doesn't exist?

> On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:33 , Bob Lund <B.Lund@CableLabs.com> wrote:
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> On 6/23/14, 5:11 PM, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 16:10 , Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> We would need to be consistent for all constants defined in the spec in
>>> defining such a referencing scheme. Also, it has no impact on the
>>> normative implementations of UAs. I would therefore suggest to add a
>>> sentence like this to an introductory section with an explanation of how
>>> to find the URLs for all defined constants, maybe with a kind value add
>>> an example.
>> 
>> works for me!
> 
> It looks like this didn't make it into the recent HTML Recommendation.
> Should a bug be submitted against HTML WG or HTML.next?

I am not sure.  Maybe it can go into some ‘add on’ spec that it’s process?  Perhaps file the bug and then design and find a home for the solution?

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>>> Best Regards,
>>> Silvia.
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2014 07:21, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>>> I would actually prefer that Œthe w3cı simply decide, I think.  Ideally
>>> there is a sentence somewhere saying roughly
>>> 
>>> ³The URI to identify an HTML[5] track Œkindı value, when used in other
>>> contexts, is http://Š²
>>> 
>>> As I say, DASH uses a Scheme (think, namespace) + Value pair.
>>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:08 , Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org> wrote:
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>>>> On 23/06/2014 19:09 , David Singer wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:06 , Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> David Singer writes:
>>>>>>> Since we want permanent labels, I fear that tying them to a
>>>>>>> version of the spec and its anchors and/or sections, and
>>>>>>> location, might be fragile.  And, as Robin points out, we donıt
>>>>>>> need choice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The whole point of W3C's usage of undated URIs is so that the
>>>>>> location _doesn't_ change.  As long as there is a W3C,
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/#attr-trace-kind-subtitles will
>>>>>> resolve. That's as good a promise as you're going to get
>>>>>> (persistence as commonly understood is a service-level guarantee,
>>>>>> _not_ a property of names!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> and when HTML5 moves to HTML6 or 7?  Is the name really specific to
>>>>> this version of HTML?
>>>> 
>>>> That's why I suggested using /html/ instead of /html5/ if you want
>>> something that updates with versions. If you want something that's
>>> guaranteed to be absolutely stable forever, use the dated version as
>>> Henry suggests (or a namespace document).
>>>> 
>>>>> what if some editor decides to change the name of the anchor
>>>>> (consistently in the document), so now itıs
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/#attribute-trace-kind-subtitles
>>>>> 
>>>>> is there really a guarantee of stability for anchor names?
>>>> 
>>>> That's undocumented, so if you need it to resolve (I thought you just
>>> needed names) then you shouldn't rely on it ‹ we've broken these several
>>> times before. In practice we probably won't break this for /html5/; we
>>> will almost certainly break them in some future version.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon
>>> 
>>> David Singer
>>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>> 
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>> David Singer
>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.

Received on Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:39:09 UTC