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Re: W3C URN scheme 'root' doesn't exist?

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 13:29:14 -0700
Cc: TAG List <www-tag@w3.org>
Message-id: <6F3AC322-2DAA-41E1-A4D5-CA6029A952ED@apple.com>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>

On May 9, 2014, at 12:50 , Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 9 May 2014 21:29, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
> It strikes me that the TAG might have an opinion, and indeed Ian suggested such...
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> Im curious, when would the w3c want to use a URN root, instead of an HTTP URL from the root
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> http://www.w3.org/
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> Maybe it's just never come up?

Maybe it hasn’t.  The example at hand is instructive; MPEG wanted it to be possible for various organizations to define ‘role’s using names that didn’t conflict.  Since mpeg and 3gpp both had URN name roots, URNs seemed ideal.  It is indeed just a name, and there is nothing to point at.

People have used reversed DNS-names (org.w3.html5.kind…) for this as well, but this has issues when domain names change hands, and so on.

In theory (I know it’s not always practice) an HTTP URL actually refers to something, and when it doesn’t, it seems heavy or wrong.

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> Begin forwarded message:
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> > From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> > Subject: W3C URN scheme 'root' doesn't exist?
> > Date: May 8, 2014 at 16:53:43 PDT
> > To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
> > Cc: Silvia Pfieffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
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> > OK, I know you are the wrong person, but danged if I know who is right.
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> > I was wondering today if it was possible to use HTML5 ‘kind’ names as DASH ‘roles’ directly.  DASH defines that a ‘role’ is a URN, so that enables multiple organizations to define roles and not collide.
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> > Holy cow, I find that not only is there no trace of
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> >    urn:w3c:…some stuff that gets us to…:<kind>
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> >    where <kind> is a kind from the HTML5 spec.,
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> > THE W3C DOESN’T EVEN HAVE urn:w3c:… registered at IANA!
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> > is this really true, the W3C itself has no URN ‘root’?
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml#urn-namespaces-1
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> > Heck, MPEG, SMPTE, ISO, IETF, 3GPP, GSMA all do.  Why not w3c?  Or am I missing something important (I hope so)?
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> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Friday, 9 May 2014 20:29:52 UTC

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