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Re: Ending DTD proliferation at the W3C

From: Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:19:04 +0900
Message-ID: <52D51D28.9000403@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
To: Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>
CC: Alex Russell <slightlyoff@google.com>, "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>, "www-tag@w3.org List" <www-tag@w3.org>
On 2014/01/14 19:26, Robin Berjon wrote:
> On 14/01/2014 11:10 , "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
>> On 2014/01/14 18:49, Robin Berjon wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2014 23:28 , Alex Russell wrote:
>>>> Has schema-language deprecation ever been done before at the W3C?
>>>
>>> There is no precedent that I'm aware of.
>>>
>>>> Was there a sunset on SGML?
>>>
>>> W3C never handled SGML,
>>
>> Wrong. See http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/#minitoc and in particular e.g.
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/sgmldecl.html.
>
> Sorry if I was unclear. W3C did *use* SGML (in a limited fashion) but
> was never in charge of it.

I see, that's what you meant.

> SGML is an SC34 thing. So we didn't get to
> deprecate it (though we did get to stop using it — or more accurately to
> stop pretending we were using it).

I think XML did a lot to reduce the use of SGML and SGML DTDs. Not 
exactly deprecate (because as you say, it wasn't W3C's standard, and so 
it was none of our business to formally deprecate it), but close to it.

Regards,   Martin.

>> The way I would put it is that SGML DTD(s) just died a quiet death,
>> without the need for any tombstones or such.
>
> Precisely.
>
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