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Re: WEIRDS and use of fixed URIs

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:28:32 +1100
Cc: TAG List <www-tag@w3.org>, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Message-Id: <E736C3D8-0410-47E5-A663-6E0E3F0BD79F@mnot.net>
To: Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>
Just a little more context here -- WEIRDS is trying to define a standard interface for accessing WHOIS data over HTTP using http(s):// URIs). It's doing so by saying that, given a URI prefix that's obtained out-of-band, you then can assume that resources with that base URI are laid out in a certain pattern.

Depending on how that discussion goes, we may be forced to modify uri-get-off-my-lawn to allow what WEIRDS is doing, thereby setting precedent for other standards to constrain URIs for their applications.

Tim Bray and I have been advocating against this practice strongly, and I expect the discussion to come to a head at the upcoming London IETF meeting. A statement (formal or not) from the TAG and/or TimBL would IMHO help preserve URI owners' control over their name space.

Cheers (and not wearing any hats),

On 20 Feb 2014, at 12:14 am, Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> There is a discussion going on in apps-discuss [1] aboud weirds-bootstrap [2]
> using a fixed URI path to address parts of their protocol.
> This seems to go against the spirit of AWWW on URI opacity [3] and mnot's "URI Design and Ownership" draft.
> Do the TAG want to be part of that discussion?
> Cheers,
> [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg11386.html
> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap/
> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity
> [4] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-uri-get-off-my-lawn-01
> -- 
> Baroula que barouleras, au tiéu toujou t'entourneras.
>        ~~Yves

Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
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