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Re: FYI, tag election links

From: Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:26:23 -0800
Message-ID: <50C9D77F.5070102@oracle.com>
To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
CC: www-tag@w3.org
Hi Henry:
I know about the WebID work.  I did not know that it had support
from the French Social Security System.   That's great!
Now the question is how to move this work forward.  Should we
start a WG?  How do we weave WebId into the infrastructure of the Web?
All the best, Ashok

On 12/13/2012 3:04 AM, Henry Story wrote:
> On 13 Dec 2012, at 01:11, Ashok Malhotra<ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>  wrote:
>
>> I read the blogs in the links below and I agree with most of the arguments they make.
>> The W3C has made efforts to reach out to the developer community and address their
>> concerns.  There was the meet-up in Lyon and there have been several developer conferences.
>> But, yes, more could be done.  More could also be done to address contradictions and inconsistencies
>> between specs.  No disagreement about that.
>>
>> But if the TAG is to be reformed, I would argue that it should become more forward-looking
>> and visionary -- help lead the Web to its full potential!  There are a number of important
>> areas that need to be worked on.   We need more powerful formalisms than RDF and we need
>> to be able to do at least a modicum of inference.  We need -- one of my hot buttons -- an architecture
>> for offline applications and we need a better system for identity on the Web.
> Hi Ashok,
>
>    we're working on that here on the WebID Community Group. We already have a lot of pieces listed
> here:
>
>     http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Main_Page#Working_Documents
>
>    - WebID - high level overview spec - what is a WebID  (pretty stable)
>    - WebID Authentication over TLS: efficient authentication using TLS (solid)
>    - WebID Interoperability: how OpenId, BrowserId, etc... can all work together (sketch)
>    - Use Case and Requirements - we're working on that ( in development )
>    - Web Access Control - something we're looking to speccify ( it's mostly done )
>
> You'll be happy to know that I worked on that at Sun Microsystems before it was taken over
> by Oracle. see this 2008 blog:
>
>     https://blogs.oracle.com/bblfish/entry/foaf_ssl_creating_a_global
>
> It seems though that in the takeover a cost cutting exercise took place where a lot
> of famous people left the new company, and this fell through the cracks, taken over by
> the french social security system, which is financing this. Vive la France!
>
>>   The W3C may also
>> want to take positions positions on some of the legal, political and social issues around the Web.
>> This is controversial and we need to discuss what we can say and how and where we say it.
>>
>> I've probably missed a few but that should keep the TAG busy for a while :-)
>>
>> All the best, Ashok
>> On 12/8/2012 4:06 PM, Larry Masinter wrote:
>>> For those who are only following this list, see blog posts
>>>
>>> http://yehudakatz.com/2012/12/07/im-running-to-reform-the-w3cs-tag/
>>> http://marcosc.com/2012/12/w3c-tag-elections/
>>> http://infrequently.org/2012/12/reforming-the-w3c-tag/
>>> http://infrequently.org/2012/11/election-season/
>>>
>>> (are there any other links I missed?)
>>>
>>> I think it's fantastic that people actually care what the TAG does.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest the current TAG discuss some of the issues raised as to problems with the TAG (things that need to be reformed) if only for continuity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
>
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