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RE: Proposed SWIG task forces on HTML Data, Web Schemas

From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:02:07 -0700
To: Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>
CC: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>, Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>, RV Guha <guha@google.com>, Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0366.html  says: "Specifically, our opinion is that the W3C should not publish two specifications that meet such similar requirements in incompatible ways. We think doing so would cause confusion for users and implementers, promote lock-in, and fragment the web. We request that the W3C Director set up a task force to find agreement on a way forward."

A task force whose charter is limited "perform a specific technical analysis and develop proposals" is not scoped to perform the task requested, which is to "find agreement". 

Larry

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From: Thomas Roessler [mailto:tlr@w3.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:01 AM
To: Larry Masinter
Cc: Thomas Roessler; Noah Mendelsohn; www-tag@w3.org; Yves Lafon; RV Guha; Jeni Tennison; Dan Brickley; Ivan Herman; Tim Berners-Lee
Subject: Re: Proposed SWIG task forces on HTML Data, Web Schemas

Larry,

to be clear: the proposed SWIG task force does not have design authority.  It is a place to perform a specific technical analysis and develop proposals to the Working Groups that have this authority.

Regards,
--
Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org>  (@roessler)







On 2011-09-22, at 11:59 -0400, Larry Masinter wrote:

> The director's decision in http://lists.23.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Feb/0871.html established that RDFa and microdata are in scope for the HTML working group, and included a call for a joint task force to be established.  While the Semantic Web Interest Group provides a valuable perspective, I think the responsibility for managing the overlap between the two HTML working group documents rests with the HTML working group.
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> Larry
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> http://larry.masinter.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Roessler
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:36 AM
> To: Noah Mendelsohn
> Cc: Thomas Roessler; www-tag@w3.org; Yves Lafon; RV Guha; Jeni Tennison; Dan Brickley; Ivan Herman; Tim Berners-Lee
> Subject: Proposed SWIG task forces on HTML Data, Web Schemas
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> Noah,
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> the TAG has asked the W3C Team to form a Task Force to consider the RDFa and microdata formats and their relationship:
>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0366.html
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> The TAG's request proposed a broad range of possible findings, including the investigation of avenues to converge the two formats, as well as an analysis and change proposals to facilitate a possible co-existence.
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> Based on private consultations of the W3C Team with interested parties, and the community feedback and reactions we got, we concluded that the most productive course of action at this point is to analyze and clarify the relationship between the two formats from a purely technical perspective.
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> We have therefore proposed an HTML Data Task Force to the Semantic Web Interest Group (SWIG), with the following charter:
> 	http://www.w3.org/wiki/Html-data-tf
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> At the same time, we have proposed another SWIG Task Force devoted to practical issues around data schemas for large-scale use in the public Web, the Web Schemas task force:
> 	http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/interest/webschema.html
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> We thank Jeni Tennison for volunteering to chair the HTML Data Task force, and RV Guha for volunteering to chair the Web Schemas Taks Force.
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> Regards,
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> Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org>  (@roessler)
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