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RE: the problem of unregistered MIME types, URI schemes, etc.

From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:25:11 -0700
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
CC: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>, Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C68CB012D9182D408CED7B884F441D4D05D3D4379A@nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com>
Making registration easier will help.
Allowing, encouraging, supporting 3rd-party registration and also "collaborative" registration (e.g., a wiki where different people can contribute to the registration information, a la Wikipedia) will help.

In the end, though, we need a concerted push to actually register everything. I'm willing to work on it, but I don't think "drafting a document registering the media types you're concerned about" can fill the need.  

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:mnot@mnot.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:57 PM
To: Larry Masinter
Cc: www-tag@w3.org; Thomas Roessler
Subject: Re: the problem of unregistered MIME types, URI schemes, etc.

On 08/08/2011, at 12:14 PM, Larry Masinter wrote:

> On the "happiana" mailing list, I was trying to make the claim that the widespread use of unregistered MIME types was a security and reliability problem in the web... that whenever there's a potential for a disagreement about what a communication term means  -- where the sender intends one thing and the receiver understands another, and they're both (more or less conforming) --  that this is a priority for us to fix.
>  
> (see the thread starting http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/happiana/current/msg00016.html for example)
>  
> Some of the pushback has been that this is not a reliability problem, that the fix for the problem is not in the IANA registration process or anything maintainable by the IETF, and a few other things ....
>  
> The conclusion I reach is that the problem of getting existing types registered isn't going to happen in IETF, that it is a "web reliability" problem...

That seems like a premature conclusion to me.

We're trying to make registration easier, in part to improve the coverage of the registries. How do you get "its not going to happen" out of that?

Furthermore, draft-freed-media-type-regs already talks about allowing grandfathered registrations (Appendix A), and registration by parties other than the 'owner'. If you want to help "web reliability", why not start drafting a document registering the media types you're concerned about?


>  Having widespread use of unregistered types, URI schemes, etc. labels is harmful, and that if the "fix" is something beyond what IETF and IANA provide, that perhaps W3C could provide some resources to help.

What did you have in mind? 


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