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Agenda for TAG teleconference of 3 Sept. 2009

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:12:45 -0400
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The agenda for the TAG teleconference of 3 September 2009 is available at 
[1, 2].  A text only copy is appended below. 

TAG members please note that our discussion will focus to a significant 
degree on your responses to the call [3] for TAG issues relating to the 
HTML 5 draft, so please provide them as soon as possible.  Thank you.

Noah

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly

[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/08/13-agenda

[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Sep/0002.html


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Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
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      [1] http://www.w3.org/

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/08/13-agenda


               Agenda of 27 Aug 2009 TAG teleconference

   Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
   Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
   archive
    1. Convene
          + Chair: Noah, Scribe: Henry Thompson (unconfirmed)
          + Roll call -- Regrets: John Kemp (at risk), Henry Thompson
            (at risk)
          + Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
          + Next Telcon: 10 September 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Dan
            Connolly (unconfirmed)
          + Future scribes: Henry -> Dan -> Ashok
    2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
          + [11]27 August 2009
    3. Reminders
          + A [12]Call for Exclusions has been sent for patents
            relating to the [13]First Public Working Draft of our
            Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL parameters
            (call for exclusions [14]update). The call for exclusions
            ends 22 October 2009.
          + Future F2F meetings:
               o 23-25 Sept 2009 @ MIT (Per [15]resolution of 24 June
                 2009)
               o 2-6 November 2006 @ [16]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
                 Clara, CA
               o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [17]resolution of 25
                 June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
                 confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
                 is unsure he'll attend).
               o Suggestion that we co-locate TAG meeting with IETF
                 meeting in Anaheim, 21-26 March 2010 ([18]email from
                 Larry and [19]response from Noah — both W3C
                 member-only). [20]Discussed briefly on 6 August 2009.
    4. Administrative items (Brief)
          + Mark Nottingham and Lisa Dusseault have been asked to join
            the TAG for a discussion of sniffing. [21]Email from Mark
            suggests a 10 AM slot during our Sept. F2F. [22]Lisa says
            that's likely OK with her. Shall we plan to invite them to
            call, probably 24 Sept (Thurs) or 25 Sept (Fri)?
    5. HTML (Not including versioning - see [23]next item)
          + Background:
               o TAG chair [24]call for TAG members to itemize
                 potential issues with HTML 5 drafts.
               o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
                 Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
                 [25]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
               o [26]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
                 draft specification that we [27]agreed to on July 23.
               o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
                 [28]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
                 the HTML 5 draft. (see [29]email from Dan announcing
                 the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
                 the associated [30]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
                 brief us was closed.
               o Ian Hickson [31]announces availability of initial
                 drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
                 part, in response to a [32]suggestion made by Noah in
                 October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
                 group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
          + Earlier background:
               o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
                 ([33]session 1 and [34]session 2)
               o June 2009 F2F discussion of [35]plans to review HTML 5
                 drafts
               o [36]ACTION-188 on Dan Connolly: Investigate the
                 URL/IRI/Larry Masinter possible resolution of the
                 URL/HTML5 issue. - due 2009-03-17 - closed.
          + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
               o [37]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
                 specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
                 Henry Thompson
               o [38]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
                 for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
                 shepherd)
               o [39]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
                 integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
          + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
               o [40]ACTION-188 on Dan Connolly: Investigate the
                 URL/IRI/Larry Masinter possible resolution of the
                 URL/HTML5 issue. - due 2009-03-17 - closed.
               o [41]ACTION-288: Arrange "divying" of HTML 5 into
                 sections such that each part of spec is read by at
                 least one TAG member - Henry Thompson. Due:
                 2009-07-02. Henry responded with a [42]Proposed
                 division of labour wrt reading the HTML 5 spec that we
                 [43]agreed to on July 23.
               o [44]ACTION-294 on Larry Masinter: Read HTML spec parts
                 from
                 http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/html5/Overview.pdf

          + Goals:
               o Briefly review each issue suggested by TAG members in
                 response the the chair's call. Identify highest
                 priority issues.
               o Discuss WebAddress issue. On last week's call, this
                 was deferred for 1 week at Larry's request in hopes
                 that a revised IRI-bis draft would be available.
               o Detailed technical discussion of high priority issues
    6. Version identifiers
          + Background:
               o Larry Masinter [45]announces new draft of
                 [46]Architectural Considerations for Language
                 Versioning for the Web . Chair's [47]response from
                 Noah (member-only).
               o Larry requested discussion of this on 27 August; chair
                 responded with commitment to put on agenda for 3 Sept.
          + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
               o [48]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
                 specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
                 Henry Thompson
               o [49]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
                 practices for designing extensible languages and for
                 handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
               o [50]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
                 integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
          + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
               o [51]ACTION-283: Update document on version identifiers
                 w.r.t. Cambridge June discussion - Larry Masinter.
                 Due: 2009-08-31
          + Goals:
               o At [52]request of Larry and wrt/ [53]ACTION-283,
                 revisit versioning and robustness principle.
               o Begin to identify particular points, if any, on which
                 the TAG might agree. Focus especially on possible
                 input to HTML 5 work.
    7. [54]Web Sockets URI schemes and protocols
          + Background:
               o Ian Hickson [55]announces the [56]IETF registration
                 for the Web socket-related URI schemes ws and wss
                 (I've corrected the fragment identifier from Ian's
                 announcement...NM)
               o Alan Ruttenberg [57]asks whether the new Web socket
                 protocol is needed
          + Goals:
               o Decide whether the TAG has concerns with the proposed
                 ws and wss URI schemes
               o Decide whether the TAG has concerns with the proposed
                 Web sockets protocol
               o If "yes" to either of the above, determine next steps.
    8. Pending Review Items:
          + [58]Pending review actions in [59]Tracker
    9. Overdue Action Items:
          + [60]Overdue actions in [61]Tracker
   10. Any other business
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      [4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon

      [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues

      [6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

      [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.

      [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/

      [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/03-agenda

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/08/27-minutes

     [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html

     [13] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/

     [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0030.html

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item05

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03

     [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0044.html

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0044.html

     [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/08/06-minutes.html#item03

     [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Sep/0000.html

     [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Sep/0004.html

     [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Sep/0002.html

     [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html

     [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html

     [27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03

     [28] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html

     [29] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253

     [31] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html

     [32] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03

     [34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03

     [35] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06

     [36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/188

     [37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20

     [38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33

     [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54

     [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/188

     [41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/288

     [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html

     [43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03

     [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/294

     [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html

     [46] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html

     [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html

     [48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20

     [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20

     [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54

     [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/283

     [52] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0006.html

     [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/283

     [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/Websock

     [55] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2009Aug/0002.html

     [56] 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hixie-thewebsocketprotocol-35#section-8

     [57] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0055.html

     [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview

     [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

     [60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue

     [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/



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