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Re: web architecture and safe content

From: Mukul Gandhi <gandhi.mukul@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:44:12 +0530
Message-ID: <7870f82e0910121014p4e09cd1ep35cd085d220f9346@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net>, www-tag@w3.org
I have no doubt RDF is useful for the web. W3C is actually doing a
great job in developing technologies, which helps the web and all of
us.

I am actually looking for a subscription based service from ISPs,
where I should be able to opt for say:
1) The present web
2) Non adult web
3) Adult web

I am not sure, if anybody else feels such a need. I also feel, it's
challanging to separate web content on the basis of above criteria.
Filtering binary images is challanging, I guess.

I think, if we achive such a separation of content, and provide these
kinds of subsriptions to users, web could truly become a media like a
newspaper or television. At present, there seems to be no regulatory
structure and enforcement of content on the web.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:22 PM, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
> Mukul,
>
> Be forewarned that the RDF/XML syntax is quite awkward to read (IMO).
> There are other syntaxes for RDF that are more human friendly.  One is
> N3:
> http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/Primer
> Another (actually a subset of N3) is N-triples:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-testcases/#ntriples
>
> Here is a converter that transforms RDF/XML to N3 or N-triples:
> http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/
>
> Below is the same RDF content that Dan Brickley sent, serialized as N3
> and N-triples syntax.
>
> ========================  N3 ===========================
>
> #Processed by Id: cwm.py,v 1.144 2003/09/14 20:20:20 timbl Exp
>        #    using base file:/tmp/tmpCfnXdZ-rdfconverter
>
> #  Notation3 generation by
> #       notation3.py,v 1.148 2003/12/04 21:20:17 timbl Exp
>
> #   Base was: file:/tmp/tmpCfnXdZ-rdfconverter
>     @prefix : <#> .
>     @prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> .
>     @prefix dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> .
>     @prefix icra: <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#> .
>     @prefix label: <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#> .
>     @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
>     @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
>
>    <>     dc:creator <http://www.icra.org>;
>         dcterms:issued "2007-3-27";
>         label:authorityFor "http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#" .
>      [      a label:Ruleset;
>             label:hasDefaultLabel :label_1;
>             label:hasHostRestrictions  [
>                 a label:Hosts;
>                 label:hostRestriction "playboy.com" ] ].
>
>    :label_1     a label:ContentLabel;
>         icra:cz "1";
>         icra:lc "1";
>         icra:na "1";
>         icra:nb "1";
>         icra:oz "1";
>         icra:sf "1";
>         icra:vz "1";
>         rdfs:comment "Label for all/most of website";
>         rdfs:label """Exposed breasts; Bare buttocks; Erotica; No violence;
> Mild expletives; No potentially harmful activities; No user-generated
> content; This material appears in an artistic context; """;
>         label:hasModifier  [
>             a icra:xa ] .
>
> #ENDS
>
> ======================== N-Triples ========================
>
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter>     <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> <http://www.icra.org> .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter>     <http://purl.org/dc/terms/issued> "2007-3-27" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter>     <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#authorityFor> "http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#ContentLabel> .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#cz> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#lc> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#na> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#nb> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#oz> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#sf> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#vz> "1" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#comment> "Label for all/most of website" .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label> "Exposed breasts; Bare buttocks; Erotica; No violence;\nMild expletives; No potentially harmful activities; No user-generated\ncontent; This material appears in an artistic context; " .
> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1>     <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#hasModifier> _:ag2 .
> _:ag2     <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#xa> .
> _:ag1     <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#Hosts> .
> _:ag1     <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#hostRestriction> "playboy.com" .
> _:ag0     <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#Ruleset> .
> _:ag0     <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#hasDefaultLabel> <file:/tmp/tmprbjeFO-rdfconverter#label_1> .
> _:ag0     <http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#hasHostRestrictions> _:ag1 .
>
> ======================================================================
>
> David Booth
>
> On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:27 +0530, Mukul Gandhi wrote:
>> Thanks, Dan for sharing the RDF code.
>>
>> I am not too much familiar with RDF syntax. I'll try to read more
>> about RDF, to learn how it helps with this issue.
>>
>> I appreciate your taking interest in this topic.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote:
>> > I'll include a version below, so it'll be in W3C archives too. Either
>> > way, it contains no adult content directly, unless you consider the
>> > words 'buttocks', 'breasts' etc to be intrinsically problematic...
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
>> > <rdf:RDF
>> >  xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
>> >  xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#"
>> >  xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
>> >  xmlns:dcterms="http://purl.org/dc/terms/"
>> >  xmlns:label="http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/contentlabel#"
>> >  xmlns:icra="http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#">
>> >
>> >  <rdf:Description rdf:about="">
>> >    <dc:creator rdf:resource="http://www.icra.org" />
>> >    <dcterms:issued>2007-3-27</dcterms:issued>
>> >    <label:authorityFor>http://www.icra.org/rdfs/vocabularyv03#</label:authorityFor>
>> >  </rdf:Description>
>> >
>> >  <label:Ruleset>
>> >
>> >    <label:hasHostRestrictions>
>> >      <label:Hosts>
>> >        <label:hostRestriction>playboy.com</label:hostRestriction>
>> >      </label:Hosts>
>> >    </label:hasHostRestrictions>
>> >    <label:hasDefaultLabel rdf:resource="#label_1" />
>> >  </label:Ruleset>
>> >
>> >  <label:ContentLabel rdf:ID="label_1">
>> >
>> >    <rdfs:comment>Label for all/most of website</rdfs:comment>
>> >    <icra:na>1</icra:na>
>> >    <icra:nb>1</icra:nb>
>> >    <icra:sf>1</icra:sf>
>> >    <icra:vz>1</icra:vz>
>> >    <icra:lc>1</icra:lc>
>> >
>> >    <icra:oz>1</icra:oz>
>> >    <icra:cz>1</icra:cz>
>> >    <label:hasModifier><icra:xa /></label:hasModifier>
>> >    <rdfs:label>Exposed breasts; Bare buttocks; Erotica; No violence;
>> > Mild expletives; No potentially harmful activities; No user-generated
>> > content; This material appears in an artistic context; </rdfs:label>
>> >  </label:ContentLabel>
>> >
>> > </rdf:RDF>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> David Booth, Ph.D.
> Cleveland Clinic (contractor)
>
> Opinions expressed herein are those of the author and do not necessarily
> reflect those of Cleveland Clinic.


-- 
Regards,
Mukul Gandhi
Received on Monday, 12 October 2009 17:15:07 GMT

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