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Final agenda for TAG F2F on 2 Nov 2009 (Today)

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:07:28 -0500
To: www-tag@w3.org
Cc: "David Orchard" <orchard@pacificspirit.com>, rubys@us.ibm.com, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "Paul Cotton" <pcotton@microsoft.com>
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The TAG will meet at TPAC this afternoon at 1:30 PM.  A (near) final 
agenda is now available at [1,2].  Since the preliminary agenda was 
announced [3] last night, I have added an item [4] on Efficient XML 
Interchange, and I have added some references to other sections.  Our main 
goal will be prepare for our joint meeting with the HTML working group on 

A text-only version of the agenda is attached below.


[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Nov/0002.html
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda#exi

Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142

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      [1] http://www.w3.org/
      [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
      [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda

      Agenda of 2 November 2009 TAG F2F Meeting at ([4]TPAC 2009)

      [4] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/

Note proposed start time: 1:30 PM

   Nearby: [5]Teleconference details - [6]issues list and [7]Issue
   Tracker ([8]handling new issues) - [9]www-tag archive - [10]tag
    1. Convene
          + Chair: Noah, Scribe: TBD
          + Roll call -- Regrets: John Kemp, Jonathan Rees
          + Note future regrets: Tim: [Nov 12, 19, 26; 3 December 3
            (probable regrets)]; Noah: [Nov 19 & 26]
          + Agenda Review - [11]this agenda
          + Next Meeting: 6 November 2009 (morning - at [12]TPAC 2009)
            Chair: Noah; Scribe: TBD
          + Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
    2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
          + Approve [13]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
          + Approve [14]minutes of 8 October 2009
          + Approve [15]minutes of 22 October 2009
    3. Administrative items
          + Appoint scribes
          + Reminder that, per [16]agreement on the 8th, our meetings
            at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
          + The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
            group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
          + Proposal: next teleconference will be on Friday, 12 Nov.
            Note that Noah will be unavailable on Nov. 19 and Nov. 26
            (US Thanksgiving).
          + The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
            the [17]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
            are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
          + Reminder of future F2F meetings:
               o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [18]resolution of 25
                 June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
                 confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
                 is unsure he'll attend).
               o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [19]decision at Sept. 2009
    4. Privacy policy
          + From [20]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
            2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
            Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
          + [21]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
            Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
          + [22]ACTION-321 Bug Larry about his input to ACTION-318 - on
            Noah Due: 29 Oct 2009
    5. Efficient XML Interchange
          + Background:
               o The TAG and EXI working groups held a discussion at
                 the 2008 Mandelieu TPAC. Taki Kamiya [23]provided a
                 summary of what we discussed. There were two main
                   1. How to indicate use of EXI when transmitting XML
                      using HTTP
                   2. Request by the TAG for improvements to
                      performance analysis of EXI
               o [24]ACTION-176 send comments on exi w.r.t. evaluation
                 and efficiency - on Noah CLOSED: 26 March 2009.
               o (NEW) Taki informs the TAG that [25]content-coding tag
                 "exi" has been registered in the IANA registry. Taki
                 notes that: "This content-coding value will be
                 mentioned in the CR version of EXI specification which
                 is expected to be ready for publication soon after the
                 TPAC week."
          + Goals:
               o Discuss the new exi content-coding token.
               o Consider possible response from the TAG to the EXI
                 working group.
    6. TPAC Meetings with HTML Working Group
          + Background:
               o TAG will meet with W3C HTML Working Group on Thursday
                 5 November (afternoon exact time TBD -- Noah has query
                 in to HTML WG chairs)
               o [26]Suggested list of TPAC discussion items for HTML
                 WG and TAG (responses from [27]Paul Cotten with
                 suggested reading; [28]Henry pointing out that the TAG
                 has a concern with the treatment of XHTML documents
                 served as text/html; Dan saying: [29]nope, not that
                 concern: what bothers me is requiring that any
                 document that "happens to conform to XML syntax MUST
                 be sent using the application/xhtml+xml media type";
                 Dan asking [30]has Microdata really been split out? )
               o [31]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
                 originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
                 Document Format [32].ods version and an Excel [33].xls
                 version are also available.)
          + Earlier background:
               o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
                 ([34]session 1 and [35]session 2)
               o June 2009 F2F discussion of [36]plans to review HTML 5
               o [37]Architectural Considerations for Language
                 Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
                 Jonathan Rees)
               o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
                 Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
                 [38]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
               o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
                 WG co-chairs ([39]announcement)
               o [40]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
                 draft specification that we [41]agreed to on July 23.
               o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
                 [42]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
                 the HTML 5 draft. (see [43]email from Dan announcing
                 the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
                 the associated [44]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
                 brief us was closed.
               o Ian Hickson [45]announces availability of initial
                 drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
                 part, in response to a [46]suggestion made by Noah in
                 October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
                 group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
               o Larry Masinter [47]announces new draft of
                 [48]Architectural Considerations for Language
                 Versioning for the Web . Chair's [49]response from
                 Noah (member-only).
          + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
               o [50]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
                 specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
                 Henry Thompson
               o [51]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
                 for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
               o [52]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
                 practices for designing extensible languages and for
                 handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
               o [53]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
                 integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
          + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
               o [54]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
                 HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
                 - Due: 2009-10-15
               o [55]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
                 individual issue) question of 3 words "other
                 applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
                 Due: 2009-10-20
               o [56]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
                 TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
                 (see: [57]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
               o [58]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
                 for HTML / TPAC PENDING REVIEW
               o [59]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
                 draft for tag@w3.org proposed TAG feedback on the
                 text/html media type registration in the 25 September
                 draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
               o [60]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
                 and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
               o [61]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
                 for TPAC agenda(s) PENDING REVIEW
          + Goals:
               o Prepare for joint TAG/HTML disucussion on Thursday
               o Review status of TAG actions and issues relating to
                 HTML -- plan next steps
    7. [62]ISSUE-61: Forbidding hyperlinks (uriBasedPackageAccess-61)
          + Background (need to flesh out description of this agenda
               o Dan Connolly has requested that we discuss Widget
                 package scheme.
    8. Pending Review Items:
          + [63]Pending review actions in [64]Tracker
    9. Overdue Action Items:
          + [65]Overdue actions in [66]Tracker
   10. Any other business

      [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
      [6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
      [7] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
      [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
      [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
     [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
     [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda
     [12] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
     [13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
     [14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
     [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-minutes
     [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
     [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
     [18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
     [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
     [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
     [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
     [22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/321
     [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0003.html
     [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/176
     [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Nov/0003.html
     [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0077.html
     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0078.html
     [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0082.html
     [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0083.html
     [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0085.html
     [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
     [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
     [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
     [34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
     [35] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
     [36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
     [38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
     [39] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
     [40] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
     [41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03
     [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
     [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
     [48] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
     [49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
     [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
     [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
     [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
     [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
     [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
     [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
     [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
     [57] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
     [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
     [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
     [60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
     [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
     [62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/61
     [63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
     [64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
     [65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
     [66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

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