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Re: HTML 5 Working Group closes without action TAG request to remove microdata

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:02:28 -0500
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Cc: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <pcotton@microsoft.com>, rubys@us.ibm.com, www-tag@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF4D664284.92E4AEE9-ON85257689.00783AAD-85257689.0078C24C@lotus.com>
Julian Reschke wrote:

> just trying the explain what's going on

Very much appreciated.  I was not at all presuming that something 
inappropriate had happened, but trying to make sure that the TAG was aware 
(to the extent I understood) what was happening procedurally. 

> [the bug was marked closed]...by the editor, not by the Working Group.
> 
> It's tracked as ISSUE-76, <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/76>.
> 
> There's currently a poll going on, see Maciej's announcement in 

Thank you, that's very helpful information

> To be fair, it also has the keyword "TrackerIssue", which means that
> the bug now is tracked in Tracker.

Um, as someone who is not deep into the workings of the HTML 5 working 
group, it's not entirely clear to me what the significance is of getting a 
message from bugzilla saying a bug is closed, and then being alerged that 
it's being "tracked in tracker", but I'm willing to assume informally that 
it's some sort of good sign that our concerns are still being considered. 
If there are things I need to know about the WG's simultaneous use of 
those two tracking systems, and the significance of having a "bug that is 
now tracked in Tracker" marked closed in Bugzilla, I suppose it would be 
worth me taking the time to learn.  I do understand that HTML 5 is a very 
complex undertaking, and there may be good reasons that some of the 
tracking systems are less than transparent from the outside.  Thank you.

Noah 

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Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
12/11/2009 04:47 PM
 
        To:     noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
        cc:     www-tag@w3.org, Paul Cotton <pcotton@microsoft.com>, 
Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, rubys@us.ibm.com, Ian Hickson 
<ian@hixie.ch>
        Subject:        Re: HTML 5 Working Group closes without action TAG 
request to remove microdata


noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> The subject line of this note is a bit of an oversimplification.  As 
best 
> I can tell, what has happened is:
> 
> * The TAG opened HTML 5 bug 8220 [1]: "The TAG requests that the 
microdata 
> feature be removed from the specification.  "
> 
> * As noted in the attached email, that bug is now closed as a duplicate 
of 
> bug 7542 [2].

...by the editor, not by the Working Group.

It's tracked as ISSUE-76, <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/76>.

There's currently a poll going on, see Maciej's announcement in 
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Dec/0330.html>.

 > ..
> * The status of bug 7542 is Status:  RESOLVED Resolution: WONTFIX 

To be fair, it also has the keyword "TrackerIssue", which means that the 
bug now is tracked in Tracker.

> I plan to schedule discussion of this on an upcoming TAG teleconference, 

> presumably next Thursday the 17th of December.  The TAG can then decide 
> whether we find this resolution to be acceptable.  Thank you.
> 
> Noah
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8220
> [2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7542
> ...

Best regards, Julian

(note that I agree with the request to remove Microdata, just trying the 
explain what's going on)
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