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RE: namespaceDocument-8: What should a "namespace document" look like?

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:53:13 -0700
To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, "Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)" <skw@hp.com>
CC: "Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM" <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>, "ht@inf.ed.ac.uk" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>, "Stuart Williams (skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com)" <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
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Dan:



> RESOLVED to do as proposed.



You quoted this text which is then followed in the minutes by the following:



Noah: One interpretation of this is that Henry will do it and we'll review it again, another is that Henry will just ship it.



DanC: If it's good enough for Henry, Stuart, and Norm, then it's good enough for the reest of the TAG.



To an outsider, it is not obvious whether Noah’s or your view is the end of the story.



And if it is resolved then where is the Finding?



/paulc



Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Connolly [mailto:connolly@w3.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:18 PM
To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
Cc: Paul Cotton; Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM; ht@inf.ed.ac.uk; Stuart Williams (skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com); www-tag@w3.org
Subject: RE: namespaceDocument-8: What should a "namespace document" look like?



On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 14:21 +0000, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)

wrote:

> Hello Paul,

>

> wrt our meeting of 21st Feb which you reference, we ran out of time

> before getting to that agendum.

>

> However, we picked up the discussion at our Vancouver F2F [a].

> Roughly, the draft finding that Henry has been working[b] on of late

> was 'teetering' on the brink of achieving concensus - when I took

> re-expressed discomfort with the direction of th 'purpose' arrow in

> the models shown in in the diagrams.



It's not teetering on the brink; it's resolved:



"PROPOSED: to address editorial comments, e.g. purpose label, skw's

comments on rddl informal ontology capturing, and publish as a TAG

finding



RESOLVED to do as proposed."

 -- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/02/27-minutes#item05




>

> To explain:

> A rough reading of the diagram is that a given 'namespace' has some

> 'purpose relation' (could be validation or... some other purpose

> oriented property) to some other resource. I suggested that it wasn't

> really the namespace that has a purpose, rather a RDDL directory

> entry (the first D in RDDL standing for Directory after-all)  - and

> went further to assert that a RDDL document was a document of such

> entries  Entry(<namespace>, <nature>, <purpose>, <relatedResource>).

> ie that we were struggling to express single n-ary relation in binary

> predicates.

>

> The discussion concluded with the assignment of two further action

> items [c,d].

>

> [d] in particular is intended to address my comments, though I have

> also said that having put my comment on the record, I would not stand

> in the way of the TAG accepting the document as is (though that went

> unrecorded).

>

> I hope that helps,

>

> Stuart

> --

> [a] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/02/27-minutes#item05


> [b] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments-2007-11-13/


> [c] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/114


> [d] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/115


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>

>         ______________________________________________________________

>         From: Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com]

>         Sent: 12 April 2008 21:37

>         To: Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM; ht@inf.ed.ac.uk; Stuart Williams

>         (skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com)

>         Cc: www-tag@w3.org

>         Subject: RE: namespaceDocument-8: What should a "namespace

>         document" look like?

>

>

>

>         What is the status of the TAG’s work on the

>         namespaceDocument-8 issue [1]?

>

>

>

>         In particular what is the status of the draft finding entitled

>         “Associating Resources with Namespaces” found at [2] which is

>         dated Nov 2007.

>

>

>

>         I looked through back agendas and minutes before sending this

>         message.  My search found a reference to the issue in the

>         agenda for the TAG meeting on Feb 21, 2008 [3] but nothing

>         appears about the issue in that meeting’s minutes [4].  I

>         apologize in advance if I missed a more recent reference to

>         this issue.

>

>

>

>         /paulc

>

>

>

>         [1]

>         http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?type=1#namespaceDocument-8


>

>         [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments/


>

>         [3]

>         http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Feb/0079.html


>

>         [4] http://www.w3.org/2008/02/21-tagmem-minutes.html


>

>

>

>         Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada

>

>         17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3

>

>         Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

>

>

>

>

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Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/


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