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aria attributes Re: TAG Minutes 8 May 2008

From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:34:27 +0900
Cc: www-tag WG <www-tag@w3.org>
Message-Id: <ED2779A0-6A02-4E35-9977-AE024A3D73D6@w3.org>
To: Henry Thompson <ht@w3.org>, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>


Le 9 mai 2008 à 03:39, Norman Walsh a écrit :
> See http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/05/08-minutes

[snip]

>  Issue tagSoupIntegration-54
>
>   <ht> http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/05/syntax_for_aria_costbenefit_an.html 
> [9]

[snip]

>   DanC: Mike Smith brought this up in the HTML WG IRC channel and  
> Henry
>   Sivenen looked at it. We could also do this by email.
>
>   DanC: The implementors have responded somewhat predictably to the
>   suggestions made by Mike Smith.
>
>   ht: Well, at the very least, email has at least a slightly more  
> citable
>   record.

for information

http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080508#l-114

# # [12:30] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/05/syntax_for_aria_costbenefit_an.html
# # [12:30] <MikeSmith> ↑
# # [12:32] <anne> he still seems to miss the point about DOM  
consistency and all
# # [12:32] <anne> and having different syntaxes for text/html and  
application/xml
# # [12:33] <anne> whatever way you put it, foo:disabled in text/html  
is entirely different from the same in XML
# # [12:46] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: note #0 s very telling
# # [12:46] <hsivonen> is
# # [12:47] <hsivonen> I think zcorpan's thes material was fine
# # [12:47] <anne> he also forgets to mention that in XML you need  
some xmlns:* in scope for a colon to work at all...
# # [12:48] <anne> and he has this assumption that ARIA is somehow not  
a special case but one of the millions of vocabularies UAs will be  
implementing in the next ten years
# # [12:51] <hsivonen> Uniform DOM access for colon seems wrong
# # [12:51] <Dashiva> hsivonen: He might assume xmlns support in HTML
# # [13:08] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: true (about note #0)
# # [13:12] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: anyway, would be good if you have  
time to post some comments there
# # [13:13] <MikeSmith> Henry has put a lot of time into this, and  
part of the point of blogging it was to try to get some wider public  
comment on it
# # [13:13] <MikeSmith> (wider than just the discussion we've had so  
far on our mailing lists)
# # [13:13] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: I'm *really* tired of explaining  
this again :-(
# # [13:14] <MikeSmith> cut and paste ?
# # [13:14] <hsivonen> could work
# # [13:19] <hsivonen> anne: if you feel more inclined to repaint the  
bikeshed, please go ahead
# # [13:20] * MikeSmith looks around for zcorpan
# # [13:23] <hsivonen> looks like the settlers used namespaces, but  
having namespaces sucks compared to unique city names
# # [13:24] <hsivonen> (in reference to the Fire Eagle talk)
# # [15:49] * zcorpan just read the logs
# # [15:49] <zcorpan> i don't understand his motivation
# # [15:51] <zcorpan> i'm not worried about implementations swaying  
away from the dash at this point, and i think i've spent way too much  
time on this, so it doesn't seem very compelling for me to write a  
useful comment on the blog post
# # [15:52] <zcorpan> other than pointing to my emails on the list,  
maybe; if someone cares enough to do so, feel free :)


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