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Re: Uniform access to descriptions

From: Phil Archer <parcher@icra.org>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:29:02 +0100
Message-ID: <47FCA87E.5010100@icra.org>
To: wangxiao@musc.edu
CC: "Michael K. Bergman" <mike@mkbergman.com>, "www-tag@w3.org WG" <www-tag@w3.org>, Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>

Apologies, Xiaoshu, for my inadvertent singling out.

I'll work with Jonathan and, I hope, others, to knock the use cases into 
shape and look forward to seeing what solution is forthcoming.

Phil.

Xiaoshu Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> Michael K. Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan Rees wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Phil Archer wrote:
>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> Clearly Xiaoshu is unhappy about this and that discussion will need 
>>>> to play out and, presumably, be taken into full account by the TAG. 
>>>> Meanwhile, I'm willing to help create the document - but my diary is 
>>>> pretty well full for this week and next.
>>>
>>> Don't single out Xiaoshu as there are other dissenters as well... The 
>>> first step is an issue summary document (focusing not on solutions 
>>> but on use cases), and preparing that can go on in parallel with 
>>> discussion of the merits of various solutions.
>>
>> +1 about singling out, but not about "dissenters"
>>
>> This is not about us v them, but us communicating to the broader public.
> Yes.  Thanks Michael and also Jonathan too for not "single (me) out".
>> This is not a new concern and it will not go away.  If there is an 
>> interest, I have been following these discussions for quite some 
>> months and have a lengthy set of references and individuals who have 
>> expressed concerns about these matters.
>>
>> For the record, I am one of those concerned individuals.
>>
>> If anyone thinks it is of use, I offer to try to summarize links and 
>> mail posts from the past 6 months or so.  I actually think Xiaoshu's 
>> technical post in November and then Ian's response and many others 
>> thereafter could be relevant.  (Though, as we know, the stuff goes 
>> back way further.)
>>
>> The TAG and everyone else on this list, I would think, must surely 
>> appreciate that issues of terminology, httpRange-14, and even the most 
>> recent Cool URIs update (nice, no mention anymore of "non-information 
>> resources") are becoming critical.
>>
>> These are not matters of ego or individuals.  They are matters of how 
>> we communicate our enterprise to the broader public that is now 
>> getting focused on what we are doing.
> True.  This is not about ego, really, it is about the general health of 
> the web.
> 
> Xiaoshu
> 
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