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F2F Agenda for 30th May - 1st June 2007

From: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) <skw@hp.com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:02:19 +0100
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I have updated the proposed agenda for our May/June F2F meeting in
response Monday's discussion [1]. The agenda is available at:

	http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/29-agenda

[Yes... I misfired in initially naming the agenda... but CoolURI'... if
indeed it is at all cool! - it is certainly almost opaque :-)]

Stuart
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[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/21-tagmem-minutes#item02

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TAG face-to-face meeting, 30 May-1 June, Googleplex, Mountain View, CA,
                                  USA

1. Logistics

   (also separate [21]Logistics page)

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/ftf-local-arrangements.html

2. Recommended readings

     * [22]TAG Charter
     * [23]Webarch
     * For [24]URNsAndRegistries-50
          + [25]draft finding
     *  For [26]XMLFunctions-34 and Elaborated Infoset
          +  [27]elaboratedInfoset
          + [28]The Interpretation of XML documents a [29]DesignIssues
            note on XML Functions from TimBL
     * "Dereferencing HTTP URIs" draft finding (@@link to be provided)
     * For [30]XMLVersioning-41
          + Revised Versioning draft findings: [31]terminology,
            [32]strategies, [33]XML Languages
          + [34]HTML Design Principles (Proposed)
     * For [35]namespaceDocument-8
          +  [36]Associating Resources with Namespaces
     * For [37]Self Describing Web
          + Revised [38]Draft finding in progress
     _________________________________________________________

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2004/10/27-tag-charter.html
     [23] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch
     [25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/URNsAndRegistries-50
     [27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/elabInfoset.html
     [28] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/XML
     [29] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues
     [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070518
     [32]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-strategies-20070518.html
     [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-xml-20070518
     [34] http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/ProposedDesignPrinciples
     [36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments/
     [38] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/selfDescribingDocuments.html

3. Agenda

  3.1. Administrative (<30min)

    1. Convene: take roll, review and agree agenda
    2. Regrets:[39]DaveO (Wed am), [40]Norm (Fri am)
    3. Appoint: scribes for the two days
       Approve: [41]minutes of previous teleconference (21 May.)
    4. Next f2f: 17-18th September, [42]University of Southampton,
       Hampshire, UK.
          + Continue informally into a 3rd Day? Nearby facilities?
    5. Nov-Dec F2F and Tech Plenary
          + Separate F2F or combined with TP?
          + Liason meetings with other WGs. (who's likely to be there
            with availability to meet with other WGs).
     _________________________________________________________

     [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/14-minutes.html#item08
     [40] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2007May/0043.html
     [41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/21-tagmem-minutes
     [42] http://www.soton.ac.uk/ecs

  3.2 URNsAndRegistries-50

   Objectives
     * Resolution to the two parts of the [43]draft finding on
       [44]URNsAndRegistries-50

     [43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/URNsAndRegistries-50
     [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#URNsAndRegistries-50

   Resources
     * [45]draft finding
     _________________________________________________________

     [45] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/URNsAndRegistries-50

  3.3 XMLFunctions-34 and Elaborated Infoset

   Objectives
     * Agree the scope of the issue. Our previous [46]discussion in
       Boston foundered on topics such a "quoting" (early/late
       evaluation) and whether expression in the form of Infoset
       manipulation served as adequate proxy for the 'meaning' of an
       elaborated document.

     [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/03/06-minutes#item10

   Resources
     * Elaborated Infosets from Henry: [47]message+thread and [48]draft
     * [49]The Interpretation of XML documents  from TimBL
     _________________________________________________________

     [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2007Jan/0072
     [48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/elabInfoset.html
     [49] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/XML

  3.4 Review of "Deferencing HTTP URIs" draft finding.

   Objectives
     * Review draft finding on "Deferencing HTTP URIs" (@@link TBD)
     * Determine next steps toward TAG approval/publication

   Resources
     * Outstanding [50]action items.
     _________________________________________________________

     [50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/actions#httpRange-14

  3.5 Versioning

    3.5.1 Review of Draft Findings

   Objectives:
     * Review what we are trying to achieve wrt to our issue
       [51]XMLVersioning-41
          + How do we move beyond drafts toward consensus?
     * Review [52]part1 derived draft findings - [53]terminology,
       [54]strategies

     [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#XMLVersioning-41
     [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070326
     [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070518
     [54]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-strategies-20070518.html

   Resources:s:
     * Outstanding [55]action items.
     * Current versioning draft findings [56]terminology,
       [57]strategies, [58]XML Languages
     * Review Comments (on prior versions [59]part1) from[60] Rhys
       (Member only) and [61]Stuart.
     * Review comments on  [62]terminology from [63]DanC
     * Other recent reviews?
     _________________________________________________________

     [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/actions#XMLVersioning-41
     [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070518
     [57]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-strategies-20070518.html
     [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-xml-20070518
     [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070326
     [60] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2007May/0013.html
     [61] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007May/0034.html
     [62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070518
     [63] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007May/0041.html

    3.5.2 Version Identification

   Objectives
     * Reconsider [64]current advice in [65]Webarch
     * Contast with advice in draft findings.
     * Articulate positive and negative use cases for version
       identification (in instances and in language defns)

     [64] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#pr-version-info
     [65] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch

   Resources
     * [66]Question from DanC, "should CSS, HTML, etc. documents bear
       version information?"
     * Current versioning draft findings [67]terminology,
       [68]strategies, [69]XML Languages
     * [70]HTML Design Principles (Proposed)
     _________________________________________________________

     [66] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Mar/0042.html
     [67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-20070518
     [68]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-strategies-20070518.html
     [69] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-xml-20070518
     [70] http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/ProposedDesignPrinciples

    3.5.3 Versioning XML Languages

   Objectives
     * Review revised part2 draft finding [71]XML Languages

     [71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-xml-20070518

   Resources
     * Revise "part2" draft finding [72] XML Languages
     * Review Comments (on prior versions  [73]part2) from [74]Norm
     _________________________________________________________

     [72] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-xml-20070518
     [73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-xml-20070326
     [74] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007May/0008.html

    3.5.4 Versioning: Application of Finding to HTML (and TagSoup)

   Objectives
     * Taking HTML (past, present and future) as a test case: Apply the
       model and guidance offered in our draft findings.
     * Where appropriate: generate consensus advice on versioning for
       HTML-WG.

   Resources
     *
     _________________________________________________________

  3.6. Purpose and Direction

   Objectives

   To develop a shared understanding of:
     * What we do; for whom; what they want/need from us.
     * How we contribute to the objectives of the Consortium
     * Our values wrt to how we communicate with the community
       (responding to requests and feedback, web presence,
       publications...).
     * Critical objectives, measures and plans (and processes - are
       they working?)

   Resources
     * TAG [75]homepage, [76]charter, [77]Issues List, [78]findings.
     _________________________________________________________

     [75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag
     [76] http://www.w3.org/2004/10/27-tag-charter
     [77] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
     [78] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings

  3.7 Issue [79]namespaceDocument-8

     [79] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#namespaceDocument-8

   Objectives
     * Agree on what we want to accomplish
     * Agree on the modeling approach
     * Agree on next steps

   Resources
     * [80]Associating Resources with Namespaces
     _________________________________________________________

     [80] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments/

  3.8 Self Describing Web

   Objectives
     * Review revised draft from Noah (@@ink TBD)
     * Agree next steps.

   Resources
     * [81]Agenda Proposal (previous F2F) from Noah and [82]"Very rough
       draft finding"
     * Related Issues:
          + Media Type issues: [83]w3cMediaType-1, [84]w3cMediaType-2,
            [85]nsMediaType-3, [86]uriMediaType-9,
            [87]mediaTypeManagement-45
          + Metadata issues: [88]namespaceDocument-8, [89]siteData-36.
          + Mixed Language issues: [90]RDFinHTML-35,
            [91]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33, [92]xmlFunctions-34
          + Miscellaneous issues: the self-describing Web has been
            until now tracked under the catch-all issue
            [93]ultimateQuestion-42.
     _________________________________________________________

     [81] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2007Feb/0021
     [82] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/selfDescribingDocuments.html
     [83] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#w3cMediaType-1
     [84] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#customMediaType-2
     [85] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#nsMediaType-3
     [86] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#uriMediaType-8
     [87] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#mediaTypeManagement-45
     [88] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#namespaceDocument-8
     [89] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#siteData-36
     [90] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#RDFinHTML-35
     [91] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
     [92] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues#xmlFunctions-34
     [93]
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?type=1#ultimateQuestion-42

  3.9 Naming and Virtual Worlds.

   Objectives
     * Consider whether there are issue of Web Architecture in the
       collision of virtual worlds with each other and the real world.

   Resources
     * Telecon [94]discussion from 30th April
     * [95]The Croquet Consortium
     * [96]SLurl 2nd Life URLs
          + Just link to SLurl.com with a Second Life location:
            [97]http://slurl.com/secondlife/<region>/<x-coordinate>/<y-
            coordinate>/<z-coordinate>/
            So, for example, to link to Ahern(50,50,50), you would
            enter the following:
            [98]http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ahern/50/50/50 <-- The
            final z-coordinate is optional.
     * Others?
     _________________________________________________________

     [94] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/03/06-minutes#item10
     [95] http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page
     [96] http://slurl.com/about.php
     [97]
http://slurl.com/secondlife/%3Cregion%3E/%3Cx-coordinate%3E/%3Cy-coordin
ate%3E/%3Cz-coordinate%3E/
     [98] http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ahern/50/50/50


    Stuart Williams for TAG
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