Re: The meaning of "representation"

Xiaoshu Wang wrote
> Second, information is embedded in a message, i..e, it is the 
> content of the message, yes?
>
> > [Noah Mendelsohn wrote]:
> >
> > No.  Assuming binary coding is used, the message is a 
> sequence of bits. It 
> > is presumed that the sender and receiver agree in advance on 
> the range of 
> > possible information values (my term, not Shannon's), that a 
> given message 
> > might convey;  each distinct message essentially selects one of those 
> > values.    From Shannon's 1948 paper [1]:
> > 
> I take the 'no' means that the message is not embedded?

Your original quote was that "information is embedded in a message."  I 
was saying "no" to that;  I don't believe it is best to think of 
information being "embedded" in a message.  Presuming that the sending and 
receiving parties share the necessary assumptions about encoding, messages 
>convey< or >transmit< information, I would think. 

Noah

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