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RE: Very rough draft of outline for TAG submssion to Workshop on Web of Services for Enterprise Computing

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:54:37 -0800
Message-ID: <E16EB59B8AEDF445B644617E3C1B3C9C02DB3D7D@repbex01.amer.bea.com>
To: "Elliotte Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>, "Rice, Ed \(ProCurve\)" <ed.rice@hp.com>
Cc: <www-tag@w3.org>
I think that talking about SOAP is crucial to any workshop on "Web of Services".  Services are pretty closely tied to SOAP in many people's views.

Cheers,
dave 

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> To: Rice, Ed (ProCurve)
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> Subject: Re: Very rough draft of outline for TAG submssion to 
> Workshop on Web of Services for Enterprise Computing
> 
> 
> Rice, Ed (ProCurve) wrote:
> > Interesting paper.. But I thought we also discussed the 
> down-side to 
> > REST which doesn't appear to be covered in this paper at all.
> > 
> > I think it makes a better case to explain when to use REST, when to 
> > use SOAP xml packages.  I do believe Web Services are an 
> integral part 
> > of the over-all web, but I also think the web is much more 
> than 'just'
> > html.  I'd love to see this paper reflect more of that.
> 
> The Web is certainly more than just HTML. I doubt anyone 
> disagrrees with that.
> 
> However, I suspect you may be conflating two very different 
> things. In a very real sense, I think the Web is not more 
> than just HTTP. A lot of the SOAP and WS work seems to be in 
> active opposition to HTTP, and part of an effort to make the 
> Web more than just HTTP. This bothers me.
> 
> Many people really want the Web to be just HTTP, and think 
> this is a good thing. Not everything can be HTTP, but not 
> everything needs to be on the Web either.
> 
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