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RE: What does http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP identify?

From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hp.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:48:31 -0000
Message-ID: <E864E95CB35C1C46B72FEA0626A2E80869A4AC@0-mail-br1.hpl.hp.com>
To: "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>
Cc: www-tag@w3.org

Hi Mark,

FWIW I'll offer my personal perspective.

In order to answer your question you have to accept the premise that the
XMLP-WG has changed which resource is referenced by the URI. That may be
open to question, but I don't think you can take it as a given - an
personally I don't see that they have.

IMO, the clarification from the XMLP-WG is entirely consistent with URI
policy for TR page URIs as articulated in section 1 of the W3C pubrules [1]
(I encountered these working on the metaDataInUri-31 draft finding - looking
for an example of an articulation of URI assignment policy).

<quote>
For Recommendation track documents, the shortname determines the identifier
of the latest version in a series of documents as
http://www.w3.org/TR/shortname. The identifier of the particular publication
is determined by the shortname, the status, and the date:
http://www.w3.org/TR/YYYY/status-shortname-YYYYMMDD.

Member and Team Submission URIs are constructed similarly, but those
documents are not published under http://www.w3.org/TR/.
</quote>

I'd be a little troubled by specifications making latest version references
rather than specific version references (I don't know whether the former is
a widespread practice), just as I'd be a little wary of writing a blank
cheque - or writing a cheque in pencil. 


Best regards

Stuart
[1] http://www.w3.org/2003/05/27-pubrules.html


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
> Sent: 16 January 2004 05:12
> To: www-tag@w3.org
> Subject: What does http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP identify?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to bring the message below to the attention of the
> TAG.  It was sent yesterday, by the XML Protocol WG.  I'd 
> appreciate it if the TAG could comment on the soundness of 
> this approach to changing the resource that a URI identifies.
> 
> Personally, I didn't think any change was required; if a URI
> was desired to identify "the latest SOAP spec", a new one 
> should have been minted.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from David Fallside
> <fallside@us.ibm.com> -----
> 
> From: David Fallside <fallside@us.ibm.com>
> To: soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com
> 
> The purpose of this message is to clarify usage of the URL
> http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/. This URL is intended to reference 
> the most recent version of the SOAP specification, which is 
> currently SOAP Version 1.2. However, it has been brought to 
> our attention that http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/ has been used 
> in some documents to reference SOAP Version 1.1. Please note 
> that the appropriate URL for SOAP Version 1.1 is 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SOAP-20000508/, and correct 
> your documents accordingly. This URL is stable and references 
> the SOAP Version 1.1 specification that exists as a member 
> submitted Note on the W3C website. The appropriate URLs for 
> the SOAP Version 1.2 specification are 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/ for the most recent version, 
> and http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-soap12-part1-20030624/ for 
> the Recommendation dated 24 June 2003.
>
> On behalf of the W3C XML Protocol Working Group,
> David Fallside
> 
> Chair, XML Protocol Working Group
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> -- 
> Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca
Received on Friday, 16 January 2004 04:49:21 GMT

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