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Re: [Agenda] 26 Apr 2004 TAG teleconf (AC mtg, TAG Charter, TLDs, Safe WSDL, Arch Doc LC)

From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:08:56 -0400
Message-Id: <DFC0F974-9782-11D8-AFD9-000A9580D8C0@w3.org>
Cc: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>, <www-tag@w3.org>, <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
To: "Paul Cotton" <pcotton@microsoft.com>
Paul,

I understand you don't want the TAG to make a decision on this without  
you being there. We might want to discuss timing. A problem however is  
that according to
http://www.icann.org/tlds/new-stld-rfp/new-stld-application-parta 
-15dec03.htm
"30 April 2004 11:59 UTC - Public Comment closes on Part B"

So if the TAG were to support a comment it would have to be done  
rapidly.
Either that, or those who want to take issue with the new domains  
should do so individually.  Of course the TAG in consensus has much  
more weight.

I'd note that in fact the .mobile proposal mentions Microsoft, Sun and  
HP among others, so there may be people in the TAG who want to find out  
why there company is supporting .mobile
http://www.mtldinfo.com/companies.aspx
http://www.icann.org/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/mobi.htm

What I *haven't* found is a good white paper explaining the benefits of  
the TLD.
The proposal makes vague reference to "easing the user experience"  
which doesn't tell one anything really.

Tim BL


On Apr 22, 2004, at 17:34, Paul Cotton wrote:

>
> I sent the following comment on the previous agenda:
>
>>>     Action CL 2004/03/29: Send a draft to www-tag explaining why the
>>>       .mobile proposal is misinformed. If the TAG supports the
> proposal,
>>>       send to ICANN on the official mailing list.
>>
>> I was not at the meeting when this was first discussed and have been
>> waiting for Chris's text in order that I could send it around
> Microsoft
>> who is one of the sponsors of the .mobile proposal in order to get
>> feedback on the issue.  There is no longer time to do this before
> Monday's
>> meeting and therefore I will be requesting that any decision be
> delayed.
>
> This request applies again this week since I have still not seen  
> Chris's
> text.
>
> /paulc
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: www-tag-request@w3.org [mailto:www-tag-request@w3.org] On Behalf
> Of
>> Ian B. Jacobs
>> Sent: April 22, 2004 12:59 PM
>> To: www-tag@w3.org
>> Subject: [Agenda] 26 Apr 2004 TAG teleconf (AC mtg, TAG Charter, TLDs,
>> Safe WSDL, Arch Doc LC)
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The agenda for the TAG's 26 Apr 2004 teleconference is
>> available as HTML [1] and as text below.
>>
>>  _ Ian
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2004/04/26-tag.html
>>
>> ======================================================
>>
>>                   Agenda for 26 April 2004 TAG teleconference
>>
>> 1. Administrative (30min)
>>
>>     1. Roll call.
>>     2. Proposed to accept the minutes of the [7]29 Mar teleconference
>>     3. Proposed to accept the minutes of the [8]19 Apr teleconference
>>     4. Accept this [9]agenda?
>>     5. Next meeting: 3 May?
>>
>>       [7] http://www.w3.org/2004/03/29-tag-summary.html
>>       [8] http://www.w3.org/2004/04/19-tag-summary.html
>>       [9] http://www.w3.org/2004/04/26-tag.html
>>
>>   1.1 May TAG ftf meeting in Boston
>>
>>     1. See [10]meeting page
>>     2. Action NW and IJ 2004/04/19: Work on agenda for ftf meeting.
>>
>>      [10] http://www.w3.org/2004/05/12-tag-mtg.html
>>
>>   1.2 May AC meeting in New York
>>
>>     1. [11]Registration[12], Agenda
>>     2. Presentation (17 May, 16:30, for 45 minutes including
> discussion)
>>          1. Topics?
>>               1. Flavor of LC comments? Biggest issues?
>>          2. Presenters?
>>
>>      [11] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34257/NY04/
>>      [12] http://www.w3.org/2004/05/16-AC-agenda.html
>>
>>   1.3 Revised TAG Charter (10-15 minutes MAXIMUM)
>>
>>      * Action PC/IJ: Proposed revised [13]TAG charter ([14]Proposed)
>>      * [15]Patent policy analysis from IJ
>>      * Get AC Rep input?
>>
>>      [13] http://www.w3.org/2001/07/19-tag
>>      [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2004Apr/0012.html
>>      [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2004Apr/0045.html
>>
>> 2. Technical (60min)
>>
>>    See also [16]open actions by owner and [17]open issues.
>>
>>      [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/actions_owner.html
>>      [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?view=normal&closed=1
>>
>>   2.1 Top Level Domains used as filters (.xxx, .mobile, etc.)
>>
>>     1. Action CL 2004/03/29: Send a draft to www-tag explaining why
> the
>>        .mobile proposal is misinformed. If the TAG supports the
> proposal,
>>        send to ICANN on the official mailing list.
>>     2. Action IJ 2004/03/29: Talk to DJW about sending a proposal to
> the
>>        TAG (focusing on social issues) that the TAG could review and
>>        possibly endorse. Progress; I chatted with DJW. We are working
> on
>>        a position statement.
>>
>>   2.2 Marking Operations Safe in WSDL
>>
>>     1. See [18]Email from David Orchard. Any updates regarding
> [19]get7?
>>
>>      [18]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Apr/0012.html
>>      [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#whenToUseGet-7
>>
>>   2.3 Web Architecture Document Last Call
>>
>>    Resources:
>>     1. [20]Last Call issues list ([21]sorted by section)
>>     2. [22]Annotated version of WebArch
>>     3. Archive of [23]public-webarch-comments
>>     4. [24]List of actions by TAG participant
>>     5. Additional actions
>>          1. Action IJ 2004/02/09: Incorporate editorial suggestions
> (see
>>             minutes of that meeting for details).
>>
>>      [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/issues.html
>>      [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/concerning.html
>>      [22]
> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/webarchWithIssues.html
>>      [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webarch-comments/
>>      [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/lc1209/actions_owner.html
>>
>>    Actions 2004/03/15 (due 25 March?) to review sections:
>>      * Norm: I volunteer for section 3 ([25]Proposed)
>>      * TBL: I volunteer 2 hours starting at start of section 2
>>      * Roy: I volunteer to look at section 2
>>      * Stuart: I volunteer starting at section 2.3
>>      * Mario: I will look at section 4
>>
>>      [25]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Apr/0011.html
>>
>>      _________________________________________________________________
>>
>>    The TAG does not expect to discuss issues below this line.
>>
>> 3. Status report on these findings
>>
>>    See also [26]TAG findings
>>      * [27]abstractComponentRefs-37:
>>           + 30 Oct 2003 draft finding "[28]Abstract Component
> References"
>>      * [29]contentPresentation-26:
>>           + 30 June 2003 draft finding "[30]Separation of semantic and
>>             presentational markup, to the extent possible, is
>>             architecturally sound"
>>      * [31]metadataInURI-31
>>      * [32]siteData-36
>>           + "[33]There is no such thing as a Web site"
>>
>>      [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings
>>      [27]
> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
>>      [28]
> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/abstractComponentRefs-20031030
>>      [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-
>> summary.html#contentPresentation-26
>>      [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/contentPresentation-26-
>> 20030630.html
>>      [31]
> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31
>>      [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#siteData-36
>>      [33] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/01/08/WebSite36
>>
>> 4. Other action items
>>
>>      * Action DC 2003/11/15: Follow up on KeepPOSTRecords with Janet
> Daly
>>        on how to raise awareness of this point (which is in CUAP).
>>      * Action CL 2003/10/27: Draft XML mime type thingy with
> Murata-san
>>
>>      _________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>     Ian Jacobs for Stuart Williams and TimBL
>>     Last modified: $Date: 2004/04/22 16:58:11 $
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)   http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs
>> Tel:                     +1 718 260-9447
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