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Re: 11/11 Arch doc review - miscellaneous comments

From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:26:34 -0500
Message-Id: <E9B76493-24DB-11D8-BFEF-000A9580D8C0@w3.org>
Cc: www-tag@w3.org
To: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>

Ian, I have just found this mail, I missed it over the long weekend.

On Nov 28, 2003, at 16:50, Ian B. Jacobs wrote:

> On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:04, Tim Berners-Lee wrote:
>> Here are my comments on a complete read-through of the
>> architecturedocument as of 2003-11-11.
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for your comments. Below are my comments about the
> pieces I did not incorporate into the soon-to-appear 28 Nov
> draft. I either incorporated the other pieces or they
> were subsumed by discussion at the ftf meeting in Japan.
>
>  _ Ian
>
>> The very first paragraph of the Abstract encapsulates the fact that
>> wehaven't solved httpRange-14 yet.  It uses the word "resource" in
>> twodistinct ways.
>
> The last remaining editor's note in the document is about
> rewriting the abstract; I haven't made any real changes there
> as I imagine we'll continue to discuss it.

I imagine so. That wasn't a request to resolve the issue.

>> 2.6.2 Determination that two URIs identify
>>
>> could we change "determination" to "expression", please?  We
>> In the same section, change "equaivalentTo" to "sameAs".  The OWLvocab
>> is now current, and this changed from DAML.
>>
>> In the same para, change "state assert" to "directly state
>> orindirectly imply"
>
> Instead, I deleted "funtionalProperty". Do you think it should go
> back in? I thought one example might suffice..

Well, the use of "sameAs" is kinda trivial.   The use of 
functionalProperty is much more interesting, and

>> 4 Data Formats
>>
>> You note that "language", "data format" and "vocabulary" are
>> usedinterchangeably.  I hope that "vocabulary" isn't.  I would say
>> thatsome
>> data formats are languages, but a vocabulary is different.
>> As far as I understand the way we tend to use these words, here is
>> mybash at explaining it in case it useful maybe for a glossary some
>> day.
>>
>> Data format
>>
>> Constrained syntax for a series of bits, and an
>> accompanyingspecification of how such series should be interpreted.
>> Examples: PNG,Plain text, OFX, HTML, RDF, HTTP request, HTTP response
>>
>> Language
>>
>> Constrained syntax for a series of (normally) characters
>> (normallyencoded as a series of bits), and a specification of what
>> such seriesmean. Examples; OFX, RDF, HTTP request, HTTP response.
>>
>> (I don't see any use in belaboring the difference, mind you, exceptfor
>> connecting onto other people's ideas. Note that things inlangauges
>> have meaning, when data formats often are just presented toa user, who
>> then determines any meaning in other ways. Also, languagesare normally
>> defined in terms of characters, so an encoding stepexists between the
>> data format and the language. XML is a data formatas it specifies a
>> bits as well as the characters.)
>>
>> Vocabulary:
>>
>> A set of terms which may be used for specific places in the grammar
>> ofa given language. Examples:     FOAF RDF ontology; SOAP HTTP
>> headers.
>> RDF and HTTP headers define places where the grammar has an open setof
>> terms which can be added to. These sets are vocabularies.
>
> I did not include these definitions. I did remove "vocabularly"
> from the list (leaving "language" and "format"). Let me know if
> you think that we should add the definitions you provided.

No, those were just for the record.  Will we have a glossary?

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