- From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: 01 Aug 2003 17:34:08 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Hello,
The agenda of the 4 August 2003 TAG teleconf is
available as HTML [1] and as text below.
- Ian
[1] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/04-tag.html
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Agenda of 4 August 2003 TAG teleconference
1. Administrative (15min)
1. Roll call. Regrets: DO, DC
2. Accept the [8]21 Jul face-to-face meeting minutes?
3. Accept the [9]28 Jul teleconf minutes?
4. Accept this [10]agenda?
5. Next meeting: 11 August teleconf?
[8] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/21-tag-summary.html
[9] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/28-tag-summary.html
[10] http://www.w3.org/2003/08/14-tag.html
2. Technical (75min)
The primary focus of this call will be on the [11]1 August 2003
Editor's Draft of the Arch Doc.
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/webarch-20030801
Actions related to Architecture Document
Note that section numbers of these action items are with respect to
the [12]draft.
[12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/webarch-20030716.html
Completed actions:
* Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Revise text in section 2.1 about
risk of false negatives in comparing URIs.
* Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Reword the good practice note with
new term for "spelling" based on "character string".
* Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Prune instances of "scheme name"
except when referring to string component before ":"; RF calls
this "scheme component".
* Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Include POST (and other methods)
as examples of deref methods at beginning of 2.5.
* Completed action TB 2003/07/21: Continue Oaxaca story for
beginning of section on messages, showing GET (with details) and
POST (with details). ([13]Done)
* Completed action NW 2003/07/21: Rewrite 3.2.2.3 ([14]Done)
* Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Produce Editor's Draft Weds or
Thurs of next week.
* Completed action TB 2003/07/28: Propose text for architecture
document that distinguishes "information resource" from other
types of "resources". ([15]Done)
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0108.html
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0409.html
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0377.html
Open action items:
* Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 5. Section 5 is expected to
be short.
* Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of
"[16]Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF.
* Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about
extensibility related to "when to tunnel".
* Action CL 2003/07/21: Redraw diagram showing relationship between
URI/Resource/Representation with (1) English words (2) no more
"isa" arrows; just label objects.
* Action CL 2003/07/21: Create an illustration of two resources, one
designated by URI without fragment, and one designated by same URI
with fragment...
* Action IJ, CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of
language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1.
* Action TBL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement to "URI persistence
...person's mailbox" in 2.6 and continue to revise [17]TBL draft
of section 2.6 based on TAG's 23 July discussion.
* Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing
examples of freenet and other systems.
* Action TB and CL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement sentence in
section 3.2.2.1 regarding advantages of text formats.
[16] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations
[17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/webarch/tim
Action items related to SVG spec that IJ does not intend to continue
to track here:
* Action CL 2003/07/21: For SVG 1.2, tighten up language regarding
use of GET for a element/href attribute. Also, ensure that SVG 1.2
is clear on CE vs CTE
Findings in Progress
* [18]whenToUseGet-7: 9 July 2003 draft of [19]URIs, Addressability,
and the use of HTTP GET and POST
+ DO said he had additional comments at 21 July 2003 ftf
meeting.
+ See [20]comments from Noah
* [21]contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of [22]Client
handling of MIME headers
1. [23]Comments from Roy on charset param
2. [24]Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when
user involved in error correction
3. [25]Comments from Chris Lilley
* [26]xmlIDSemantics-32:
1. [27]Chris Lilley draft finding.
2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new
input from reviewers. 7 July Deadline.
* [28]contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a
draft finding on content/presentation.
* [29]metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "[30]The use of
Metadata in URIs"
+ Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants
to peek inside the URI.
+ See also [31]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI
schemes instead of headers
* [32]abstractComponentRefs-37
+ Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask
them for their analysis.
* Action IJ 2003/07/21: Update Deep linking finding (i.e., create a
new revision) with references to [33]German court decision
regarding deep linking. No additional review required since just
an external reference.
* Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [34]TB apple story into a finding.
[18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7
[19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030709.html
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0297.html
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0051.html
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0076.html""
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0113.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32
[27] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37
[33] http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Sort=3&Datum=2003&Art=pm&client=3&Blank=1&nr=26553&id=1058517255.04
[34] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA
3. Bin
Identifiers ([35]URIEquivalence-15 , [36]IRIEverywhere-27)
[35] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15
[36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27
* [37]URIEquivalence-15
+ SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [38]Tim Bray text has
been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this
issue to pending state.
* [39]IRIEverywhere-27
+ Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of
IRIs.
+ Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications
that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [40]TBL draft not yet
available on www-tag.
+ See TB's [41]proposed step forward on IRI 27.
[37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15
[38] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4
[39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27
[40] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html
[41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html
Qnames, fragments, and media types([42]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6,
[43]fragmentInXML-28, [44]abstractComponentRefs-37, [45]putMediaType-38)
[42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
[43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28
[44] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
[45] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38
* [46]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
+ Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema
desideratum ([47]RQ-23).
* [48]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML.
1. Connection to content negotiation?
2. Connection to opacity of URIs?
3. No actions associated / no owner.
* [49]abstractComponentRefs-37(discussed [50]above).
* [51]putMediaType-38
[46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
[47] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183
[48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28
[49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#abstractComponentRefs-37
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag.html#findingsInProgress
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38
New and other Issues requested for discussion. ([52]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33,
[53]RDFinXHTML-35, [54]siteData-36 plus possible new issues)
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36
Existing Issues:
* [55]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
* [56]RDFinXHTML-35
* [57]siteData-36
+ Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35
[57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#siteData-36
Possible New Issues
* [58]Visibility of Web Services, raised by Mark Baker
* [59]Character model conformance, raised by TBL
* [60]Meaning of URIs in RDF documents, raised by TBL
[58] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0069.html
[59] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0009.html
[60] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0022.html
Other issues
* [61]namespaceDocument-8
+ Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status
section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable
format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up
messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a
canonical mapping to RDF.
+ Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue,
pointing to the RDDL Note. See [62]comments from Paul
regarding TB theses.
+ Refer to draft TAG [63]opinion from Tim Bray on the use of
URNs for namespace names.
* [64]uriMediaType-9
+ IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft
(see [65]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close
this issue?
+ Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to
registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?]
* [66]HTTPSubstrate-16
+ Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether
the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended
to be excluded from RFC 3205
+ See [67]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services.
* [68]xlinkScope-23
+ See [69]draft, and [70]SW message to CG chairs.
+ Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking
for an update on xlinkScope-23.
* [71]binaryXML-30
+ Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on
adding to survey.
+ Action IJ 2003/07/21: Add link from issues list binaryXML-30
to upcoming workshop
+ Next steps to finding? See [72]summary from Chris.
* [73]xmlFunctions-34
+ Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to
XML Core work. See [74]email from TimBL capturing some of the
issues.
* [75]charmodReview-17
1. Completed action IJ 2003/07/14: Move issue 17 to pending
rather than resolved.
2. Completed action DC: Remind I18N WG of what we are expecting
regarding issue 17; send this on behalf of the TAG
([76]Done).
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2003/07/21-tag#namespaceDocument-8
[62] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html
[63] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html
[64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9
[65] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16
[67] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html
[68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23
[69] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html
[70] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104
[71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30
[72] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html
[73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34
[74] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html
[75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#charmodReview-17
[76] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0052.html
Other actions
* Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that
actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. IJ and PLH making
substantial progress on this; hope to have something to show in
May.
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Ian Jacobs for Norm Walsh and TimBL
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