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Re: XML-*

From: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:13:38 -0500
To: www-tag@w3.org
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/ Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> was heard to say:
| Elliote's examples reproduced below tend to reinforce my opinion that
| entities are in general on the wrong side of the cost-benefit curve.
| Yes, these are nice-to-haves.  No, I don't think removing entities
| from XML would get in the way enough to be a real roadblock. -Tim

I would wager that almost every significant document that I've ever
written has included at least a few entities. By my crude grep|wc -l
estimate, there are more than 2800 entity declarations (transitively)
in the internal subset of book.xml for "DocBook: The Definitive
Guide".

There are ten or fifteen in the sources for most W3C specs that I've
seen.

It might be useful to have a standard for "Prescriptive Standalone
XML" that people could point at in those applications where such a
prescription is necessary, but removing entities from XML in general
is just not something I'm willing to consider.

I'm not willing to consider removing DTDs either, in case you're
curious.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

- -- 
Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM    | Doubt is to certainty as neurosis is to
XML Standards Architect | psychosis. The neurotic is in doubt and has
Web Tech. and Standards | fears about persons and things; the psychotic
Sun Microsystems, Inc.  | has convictions and makes claims about them.
                        | In short, the neurotic has problems, the
                        | psychotic has solutions.--Thomas Szasz
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