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Re: SVG's future

From: Sebastian Zartner <sebastianzartner@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:16:11 +0100
Message-ID: <CAERejNaF4yxcaueYGXZSf38nZOioH5-AH9FAz9LtwqMo1Han1Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Cc: Domenico Strazzullo <strazzullo.domenico@gmail.com>, Doug Schepers <standards@schepers.cc>, Nikos Andronikos <nikos.andronikos@gmail.com>, グルチヤンラミン <ktecramin99@gmail.com>, "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>, www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>, Francis Hemsher <fhemsher@gmail.com>
On 10 February 2017 at 21:29, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Domenico Strazzullo
> <strazzullo.domenico@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snip quite a lot]
>
> This uninformed and insulting ranting is a severe violation of the
> community norms for a W3C mailing list.  Stop this now.

Thanks Tab! Please let's keep some respect for each other! Different
opinions and valid arguments can be expessed in an objective way. This
is meant for both sides!

On 10 February 2017 at 06:23, Doug Schepers <standards@schepers.cc> wrote:
> The answer to motivating the browser makers to implement SVG is to
> demonstrate concrete uses (not use cases, but actually real-world uses) in
> which features of SVG 2 are solving real problems in production software.
> This means putting it in a polyfill (or putting it into an open-source
> browser), and promoting its use.
>
> From a standardization perspective, the evidence of interest the
> implementers would like to see are pull requests on Github, test suite
> contributions, and other measurable activity, not really mailing list
> comments (especially not ones that veer off into philosophy or
> recrimination).

As I wrote before, I'd really like to hear from browser makers why
they are hesitant or even reluctant to implement SVG 2 features,
especially as several of them were involved in the specification by
providing editors.

Regarding real-world uses, see mesh gradients as example. Those were
implemented in Inkscape 0.92 and there are also several
polyfills[1][2] available, though still no browser vendor seems to be
willing to implement them.
Another case: Mozilla is holding back the implementation of
vector-effect property values[3] (done by a volunteer), because the
other browser vendors don't indicate implementation interest.

Sebastian

[1] http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/POLYFILL/MESH/mesh.html
[2] http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/Mesh-Gradients-Polyfill-td4978519.html
[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1318208#c67
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