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RE: Future plans for SVG Fonts and SVG (SMIL) Animation in browsers (Was: DOM4 not compatible with ACID3 tests)

From: David Dailey <ddailey@zoominternet.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:59:11 -0400
To: "'Adrian Bateman'" <adrianba@microsoft.com>, "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>, "'Brian Birtles'" <bbirtles@mozilla.com>
Cc: <www-svg@w3.org>, "'Maciej Stachowiak'" <mjs@apple.com>, "'Tab Atkins Jr.'" <jackalmage@gmail.com>, "'Anne van Kesteren'" <annevk@opera.com>
Message-ID: <000601cc7260$5ef62bc0$1ce28340$@net>
Okay, sigh....

Any chance you (or any of your competitors) would be willing to lend some
programming support to projects like FakeSMIL or  SmilScript (or <replicate>
) ? 

I understand your projected 4th quarter profits may allow... (just kidding)

I ask wearing more hats than I can count, which is why you can't see my


-----Original Message-----
From: www-svg-request@w3.org [mailto:www-svg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
Adrian Bateman
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:22 PM
To: Ian Hickson; Brian Birtles
Cc: www-svg@w3.org; Maciej Stachowiak; Tab Atkins Jr.; Anne van Kesteren
Subject: RE: Future plans for SVG Fonts and SVG (SMIL) Animation in browsers
(Was: DOM4 not compatible with ACID3 tests)

On Friday, September 09, 2011 6:00 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2011, Brian Birtles wrote:
> > (2011/09/10 4:55), Ian Hickson wrote:
> > > I'm not closely involved in the SVG work. Can someone elaborate on 
> > > the status of SVG Fonts and SMIL animation in terms of future plans 
> > > for browser vendors? Are these features that are intended to be phased
> > 
> > Mozilla is not planning to support SVG Fonts (as per [1][2][3]; 
> > however the idea of embedding SVG Fonts in OpenType[4] has attracted 
> > some interest including from Mozilla). That said, there was a 
> > resolution that SVG 2 would mandate support for SVG Fonts to some 
> > degree.[5]
> > 
> > SMIL Animation is up in the air at the moment. Microsoft have 
> > expressed concern about implementing it, or at least a preference to 
> > prioritise CSS Animations. There has been talk about harmonising the 
> > two technologies but until that path is clear some browser vendors are 
> > reluctant to invest further in SMIL. There are outstanding action 
> > items to investigate some of the options here.
> > 
> > [1] http://limi.net/articles/firefox-acid3
> > [2] 
> > http://robert.ocallahan.org/2010/06/not-implementing-features-is-hard_
> > 03.html [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119490
> > [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2011Jun/0042.html
> > [5] http://www.w3.org/2011/03/01-svg-minutes.html#item04
> Thanks, that's very useful information.
> Can anyone from Microsoft, Apple, Google, or Opera comment further on this

We have no current plans to support SVG Fonts or SMIL animation for SVG in
Explorer. Of course, our customers' needs always drive demand for features
and we
respond accordingly.

We described more about this in a blog post here:


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