From: Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>

Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:41:59 +0100

To: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>

Cc: www-svg@w3.org

Message-ID: <1291822919.1705.592.camel@LeChien>

Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:41:59 +0100

To: "Dr. Olaf Hoffmann" <Dr.O.Hoffmann@gmx.de>

Cc: www-svg@w3.org

Message-ID: <1291822919.1705.592.camel@LeChien>

Hello Olaf, The proposed changes have been made and can be seen at http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/filters.html#feComponentTransferElement I've made a few comments inline below. Tav On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 12:55 +0100, Dr. Olaf Hoffmann wrote: > Tavmjong Bah: > > Hello Olaf, > > Hello, > > > > I have been tasked with responding to your email of 13 Jun 2010 > > concerning the definition of the attribute type for the elements feFunc* > > defined in: > > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/filters.html#feComponentTransferTypeAttribute > > > > > > (ISSUE-2338: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2338 ). > > > > My proposed rewording of this section follows. Please let me know if > > this rewording is satisfactory (your original email is at the bottom). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tav > > > > To resume, the changes are basically: > a) use consequently n instead of undefined N - this is obviously ok > b) add something useful for the case C = 1 - this looks ok as well > Comments on two minor issues see below inline. > > > The remaing question/problem indeed applies to several filter definitions. > I think, it is not mentioned at all that one has to transform > colours like '#abcdef' to three values, all from the interval [0, 1]. > Missing this (because other chapters of SVG use other notations than > channels for colours), the formulas in this chapter are a little bit confusing > and it takes some time to guess, how to apply them. > But to explain this or vocabulary like 'transparent black' is > more an issue for the introduction, not for a specific filter section. I agree, it seems that different parts have different authors and therefore different styles. We should pay closer attention these issues in 1.2/2.0. > So - ok for this section. > If someone could have a critical look on undefined vocabulary > like the relation of colour values to colour channels and something > like 'transparent black' could improve the understandability of the > filter chapter even more ;o) > Does really no implementor have problems with this, or is it possible > that some missing vocabulary could have been the source of some > implementation bugs in the past? ;o) Certainly there are bugs in filters as implemented in Inkscape due to confusing text. Hopefully the more serious problems have been addressed with changes in text and/or new tests. > > ================================================== > > > > type = "identity | table | discrete | linear | gamma" > > > > Indicates the type of component transfer function. The type of > > function determines the applicability of the other attributes. > > > > In the following, C is the initial component > > of what? > For example for feFuncA it represents value of the alpha channel? > For feFuncR it represents the red colour channel value... I made a small addition here. Note that the definition of the feFuncX's are defined earlier in the section. > > , C' is the remapped > > component; both in the closed interval [0, 1]. > > > > * For identity: > > > > C' = C > > > > * For table, the function is defined by linear interpolation between > > values given in the attribute ‘tableValues’. The table has n+1 > > values (i.e., v_0 to v_n) specifying the start and end values for > > n evenly sized interpolation regions. Interpolations use the > > following formula: > > > > For a value C < 1 find k such that: > > > > k/n <= C < (k+1)/n > > > > The result C' is given by: > > > > C' = v_k + (C - k/n)*n * (v_k+1 - v_k) > > > > If C = 1 then C' = v_n. > > > > * For discrete, the function is defined by the step function defined > > by attribute ‘tableValues’, which provides a list of n values (i.e., > > v0 to v_n-1) in order to identify a step function consisting of n > > steps of the same width. The step function is defined by the > > following formula: > > > > For a value C < 1 find k such that: > > > > k/n <= C < (k+1)/n > > > > The result C' is given by: > > > > C' = vk > > should be > C' = v_k > in your notation? Yes. > > > > If C = 1 then C' = v_n-1. > > > > * For linear, the function is defined by the following linear equation: > > > > C' = slope * C + intercept > > > > * For gamma, the function is defined by the following exponential > > function: > > > > C' = amplitude * pow(C, exponent) + offset > > > > > > Best wishes > > Olaf >Received on Wednesday, 8 December 2010 15:42:35 GMT

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