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Re: Interim strategies for no SMIL (and other?) support in IE9

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:11:51 -0400
Message-ID: <4BD5F387.8070708@w3.org>
To: ddailey <ddailey@zoominternet.net>
CC: www-svg@w3.org
Hi, folks-

Just to clarify, when I said "more functional", I meant specifically for 
the following three features:

1) SVG Fonts: the full profile of SVG Fonts, i.e. SVG fonts with 
arbitrary content, rather than simple path syntax

2) Declarative Animation: ASV had fairly good (though not great) SMIL 
support; performance could have been better, but they had a fairly full 
feature set.  Firefox may have SMIL support, and there is interesting 
stuff going on with CSS animation as well.

3) Filters: ASV had fairly complete filter support, unsurprisingly, 
since many of the filter primitives come from Illustrator and Photoshop. 
  Firefox has made a lot of progress here, actually.

I don't think IE9 will support any of these three, but it (and the other 
browsers) will do other things better than ASV did, like HTML 
integration and hardware acceleration; but these areas of improvement 
aren't the features at risk for legacy content, by definition.

Note: Opera has fairly complete SVG support, so I'm less worried there; 
WebKit also has pretty good SVG support, though Android turns it off for 
now. :(

So, the question remains... how to best manage the transition?

Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs


ddailey wrote (on 4/26/10 2:27 PM):
> Doug suggested that I might want to raise this with the SVG Working
> Group. I summarize my question since it was originally more verbose than
> needed. Doug's reply follows.
>
> Given that IE/ASV has such strong SVG support (including a very complete
> implementation of filters and animation) do you know if Microsoft has
> any plans to allow backing in and out of IE9?
>
> But here's the reasoning for my question: I will be reluctant to upgrade
> campus labs, personal machines, or computers of clients to IE9, if it is
> a major step backwards from IE/ASV, though I will clearly be interested
> in doing testing and benchmarks to compare it with the other five major
> browser implementations. In the past it has been very difficult to
> concurrently run two different versions of IE on the same machine for
> testing purposes, or, as I recall, to back in and out of different
> plugins (Renesis v ASV, for example).
>
> regards
> David
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Schepers" <doug@schepers.cc>
> To: "ddailey" <ddailey@zoominternet.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [svg-developers] no SMIL support in IE9 [was: ANN: SVG
> Pastie.]
>
>
>> Hi, David-
>>
>> A legitimate concern and one that should be expressed on www-svg... to
>> wit, how do we transition to the FF3.7/IE9 world from the more
>> functional ASV world? Should there be UA negotiation to make this easier?
>>
>> Regards-
>> -Doug
>
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