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Minutes, 21 October 2009 SVG WG telcon

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:50:24 -0400
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http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-svg-minutes.html

                    SVG Working Group Teleconference

21 Oct 2009

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/0016.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-svg-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Doug_Schepers, ed, anthony

    Regrets
    Chair
           ed

    Scribe
           shepazu

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]telcon times
          2. [6]short descriptions for SVG specifications
          3. [7]Java bindings appendix
          4. [8]test suite scripts
          5. [9]canned filter effects
          6. [10]publishing SVG 1.1 SE
      * [11]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________



    <trackbot> Date: 21 October 2009

    <scribe> scribenick: shepazu

telcon times

    shepazu: since we don't have heycam around for a while, and DST is
    nearly here, we should pick a new time that is better for the
    europeans

    anthony: I'm fine with that, but would rather not do anything past
    midnight or before 5:30am

    <scribe> ACTION: shepazu to send email about telcon time change,
    with link to planner [recorded in
    [12]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-svg-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2684 - Send email about telcon time
    change, with link to planner [on Doug Schepers - due 2009-10-28].

    [13]http://mcc.id.au/2007/03/telcon/

      [13] http://mcc.id.au/2007/03/telcon/

    <ed>
    [14]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=11&
    day=30&year=2009&p1=239&p2=240&p3=188&p4=-1

      [14] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=11&day=30&year=2009&p1=239&p2=240&p3=188&p4=-1

    shepazu: 2 meetings, or 1?

    ed: I'd like to have a focused working time, not necessarily a
    telcon... helps me get stuff done

    anthony: same here

    shepazu: me too

short descriptions for SVG specifications

    ed: Chris' descriptions seem fine to me... anything else needs
    doing?

    shepazu: I don't think so for right now.... going forward, we should
    tailor our abstracts for this view
    ... have short one-sentence summary at the very beginning

    anthony: right... we don't normally but much up there

    shepazu: maybe something shorter and a bit less technical

Java bindings appendix

    ed: saw cameron's work there
    ... I think what needs doing now is for someone to take this over,
    so we can publish soon
    ... we need to check that it matches what's in 1.1 already

    shepazu: I'm not very good at java

    ed: I'm not much better

    anthony: me either

    ed: I could give it a shot
    ... I could hack on the scripts

    shepazu: you're pretty busy, though... is this the best use of your
    time?
    ... who did it before?

    ed: no idea... but heycam did most of the work already
    ... wouldn't be able to get to it earlier than next week

    anthony: when does it need to be done?

    ed: well, it's a publication blocker

    shepazu: could Vincent Hardy help us out?

    ed: I could ask him

test suite scripts

    anthony: I've checked these in
    ... sent an email out
    ... will work on that this week

    <anthony>
    [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/001
    2.html

      [15] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/0012.html

    anthony: I also recommitted Batik to the tools area as binary,
    rather than ascii
    ... hope it works for everyone now
    ... also added a new version of the test harness which uses svgweb
    for IE

    <scribe> ACTION: ed to work on java bindings scripts [recorded in
    [16]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-svg-minutes.html#action02]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2685 - Work on java bindings scripts [on
    Erik Dahlström - due 2009-10-28].

canned filter effects

    shepazu: antoine was asking about these
    ... blur, dropshadow, etc.
    ... I thought we were going to do this in Filters module, but I
    don't see it

    ed: at the moment, there's only feDropShadow
    ... I've been thinking that it would be easier as CSS properties
    ... depending on how much control we want to give people, it could
    be easy or simple... want to keep it simple
    ... though doing element notation would be good too
    ... doing shorthand notation in CSS would be very similar to what IE
    does

    shepazu: we can define the filters in terms of their element
    structure, but give CSS shorthands for those

    ed: yup, that's possible
    ... I told Antoine that we are still collecting requirements, and
    that he should email the list
    ... I want to have nice examples in the primer
    ... it might be too early to have language in the spec

    shepazu: I'm not sure of that

    ed: question is what things are suitable for having as shorthands

    shepazu: having functional notation with x, y, and fuzziness would
    suffice for dropshaow

    ed: we should use similar syntax as as text-shadow, which allows you
    to do color and stacking as well

    shepazu: so, what would be useful... dropshadow, blur, and maybe
    some color effects...
    ... sepia-tone, grayscale, etc., for photos
    ... just throw them in there, and let people give feedback on what
    they want

    ed: just a matter of finding the time
    ... I enjoy experimenting with filters

publishing SVG 1.1 SE

    shepazu: maybe we could meet next week one day to finish it off?
    ... what's left?

    ed: Java bindings...

    <ed>
    [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/000
    5.html

      [17] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2009OctDec/0005.html

    ed: heycam summarized it

    anthony: I'm happy to do a marathon

    trackbot, end telcon

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: ed to work on java bindings scripts [recorded in
    [18]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-svg-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: shepazu to send email about telcon time change, with
    link to planner [recorded in
    [19]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-svg-minutes.html#action01]
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