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Re: Input on the agenda

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:07:36 -0800
Message-ID: <63df84f0903091607y7e12b442v5cb13e7ddf238eef@mail.gmail.com>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html@w3.org, www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Doug Schepers wrote:
>
>> Hi, Ian-
>>
>> Ian Hickson wrote (on 3/9/09 2:08 PM):
>>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Doug Schepers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ian Hickson wrote (on 3/9/09 2:53 AM):
>>>> >
>>>> >  ISSUE-37 (html-svg-mathml): Integration of SVG and MathML into
>>>> > text/html
>>>> >
>>>> >      This is pending on a response from the SVG group. Implementation
>>>> > work
>>>> >      has been occurring in browsers, though, and this may become a
>>>> > moot
>>>> >      point if those ship.
>>>>
>>>> Can you expand on that?  We'd be interested in hearing details about
>>>> specific implementation decisions in particular browsers.
>>>>
>>>> As you know, we have active participants from both Opera and Mozilla in
>>>> the SVG WG, so if you have any other information, we'd like to take that
>>>> into account.
>>>
>>> I don't think there are any implementations you don't know about; my
>>> point
>>> is just that once the implementations start shipping, our options are
>>> going to be considerably more constrained.
>>
>> Sorry, I wasn't clear... I didn't mean "which browsers?", I mean, "which
>> browsers are doing what?"  You may have more detailed information about
>> specific implementation decisions that vendors have already made, which
>> somehow escaped the notice of the SVG WG, and we'd like to know how those
>> decisions have been made, and who made them, and bring those people and
>> rationales into the discussion.  Also, what shipping schedules are imminent?
>
> Right now in WebKit we're holding off on SVG in HTML due to the uncertainly
> over the final spec. But I am personally concerned that it is taking so long
> to work the issues out and I think it would be regrettable if SVG in HTML
> missed the boat for HTML 5.

Henri is currently working on integrating a HTML5 parser into gecko
(and thus Firefox). The current version of that uses the proposal from
Hixie. We are definitely eager to get more people using our SVG
support and believe that adding support for SVG inside text/html is
the most effective way to do that. So I'd echo Maciejs concern about
this issue taking too long.

/ Jonas
Received on Monday, 9 March 2009 23:10:25 GMT

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