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Re: 'image-fit' vs preserveAspectRatio

From: Erik Dahlström <ed@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:59:32 +0200
To: "Giovanni Campagna" <scampa.giovanni@gmail.com>, Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
Cc: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, "Simon Pieters" <simonp@opera.com>, "Grant, Melinda" <melinda.grant@hp.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, "www-svg@w3.org" <www-svg@w3.org>
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:33:33 +0200, Giovanni Campagna <scampa.giovanni@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/4/22 Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>:
>> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:51:29 +0200, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Erik Dahlström wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Previously, the CSS spec had the same keywords as SVG. What's
>>>>>> the reason for the change?
>>>>>
>>>>> The keywords were initially taken from SMIL 1.0, but it was felt that
>>>>> the functionality was different enough that we should use different names to
>>>>> prevent confusion.  Also, the CSS group felt that the previous keywords
>>>>> weren't as descriptive as they could be.
>>>>
>>>>  The SVG WG seemed to be ok with a new property, and could adopt it for
>>>> use in SVG too, but 'image-fit' wasn't seen as a general enough name.
>>>>  See http://www.w3.org/2009/03/16-svg-minutes.html#item06
>>>
>>> Actually, the original name in the CSS draft was copied from SMIL
>>> and was 'fit', not 'preserveAspectRatio'. The CSSWG felt 'fit'
>>> was too general--since in CSS it only applies to replaced elements,
>>> and not to any other boxes--and decided to rename it 'image-fit'.
>>> I can't speak for the WG, but I think we'd be open to renaming it
>>> to align better with SVG. However, I don't think 'aspect-ratio'
>>> is a good name because this property doesn't give an aspect ratio.
>>>
>>> I'm not coming up with any good alternatives here, just
>>>   fit-scaling: fill | cover | contain
>>>   fit-position: <background-position>
>>> If you've got any other ideas throw them in...
>>>
>>> ~fantasai
>>>
>>
>> How about content-fit and content-position? Perhaps this clashes too much
>> with the content property, to which it isn't really related.
>
> content-fit is how the content (the content property, being it
> "contents" or "url" or an arbitrary string) fits inside the box (or
> set of boxes) generated by the element. So it is related to content,
> and I support "content-fit".

'content-fit' would be ok with me.

Note that it may be slightly confusing for svg authors since preserveAspectRatio="none" means the same as image-fit="fill", and image-fit="none" means something else.

> I don't really support content-position: if you want to change the
> shape of content area, you normally change padding, don't you?

Does having 'content-position' change the content box? I think it only offsets what's shown inside the content box, right?
And isn't changing the padding really just affecting what's outside the content-box?

I think 'content-position' is fine.

Note that these are my personal opinions, not necessarily the opinion of the SVG WG.

-- 
Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
Received on Friday, 24 April 2009 07:06:07 GMT

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