Re: errata? weather.svgz#sunny

Cameron,

your patience is as always legendary.
Is there some blatant error in my thinking?

I do hope the WG will consider my proposal that plain # in a uri works  
with a symbol as per use.
ie to display a single graphic in a viewbox.

it doesn't have any other definition, and it's hard to see how this  
could be misinterpreted.
symbols may already have a viewbox which can be used.

regards

~:"


Jonathan Chetwynd

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On 2 May 2008, at 07:01, Cameron McCormack wrote:

>
> Jonathan Chetwynd:
>> is this supported in UAs?
>
> I don’t know that any of the desktop browsers do support it yet.
>
>> I haven't been able to create anything to demonstrate this working in
>> squiggle or opera
>
> Certainly it’s not implemented in Squiggle.
>
>> I'm really concerned by this, primarily there's no examples, so I'm
>> confused.
>> in <svg:use>  xlink:href='http://www.peepo.org.uk/icon-ark/weather-icons.svgz/#sunnyi'
>> will only point to - and display - the single symbol with id #sunny.
>> is it correct that this symbol would never be displayed? it's a  
>> symbol,
>> that's a version of my original errata query
>>
>> i used this file: http://www.peepo.org.uk/icon-ark/weather-icons.svgz
>> i added a new id="vsunny"
>>
>> then tried: file:/Users/jonathanchetwynd/Desktop/weather.svg#vsunny
>> but this is merely the default.
>
> Yes that’d be because the browsers don’t support that #element  
> yet.
>
>> also tried:
>> file:/Users/jonathanchetwynd/Desktop/
>> weather.svg#vsunny(viewBox(0,0,200,200))
>
> The syntax needs to be:
>
>  file:/Users/jonathanchetwynd/Desktop/ 
> weather.svg#svgView(viewBox(0,0,200,200))
>
> I know that SVG view specifications like that will work in Batik and
> Opera.
>
>> <symbol id="sunny" viewBox="0 0 150 150"  >
> …
>> </symbol>
>>
>> <use xlink:href="#sunny" x="33%" y="72%" width="15%" height="30%"
>> id="vsunny"/>
>>
>> there are a few other things, but better take small steps...
>
>
>> eg: with use-external this seems very confusing requirement to  
>> duplicate
>> ids.
>
> With the simple #element syntax (which isn’t implemented widely  
> yet),
> you need to have an ID on your <use> element because that’s where  
> the
> graphical content is placed.  The <symbol> is just a definition to
> re-use.  If you had two <use> elements that used the same symbol, then
> you need some way to identify which of those two <use>s you want the
> initial view to be zoomed to.
>
> -- 
> Cameron McCormack ≝ http://mcc.id.au/
>