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Re: Meeting with SVG, XHTML, WAI people to move forward on ARIA as a cross cutting technology

From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:46:11 -0700
Message-ID: <18200.31971.215784.917955@retriever.corp.google.com>
To: ian@hixie.ch
Cc: hsivonen@iki.fi, public-html@w3.org, www-svg@w3.org


I suppose there is a first time for everything ... and in this
case I must agree with Ian --- '_' in attr names are ugly.
Ugliness not withstanding, I dont believe we need go down the
ugliness of inventing a second namespacing mechanism because some
dont like the current one; --- the current namespacing mechanism
wont go away, and the world will be left to contend with twice
the ugliness that pervades at present --- and worse, where that
ugliness comes in multiple flavors.

(Bertie Bots every flavored namespaces)

Ian Hickson writes:
 > 
 > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Henri Sivonen wrote:
 > > 
 > > I think we should figure out a clean way to do ARIA in particular and 
 > > not to try to establish a new generalized namespacing mechanism.
 > 
 > I agree, and it's not clear to me how we even ended up considering a new 
 > generalized namespacing mechanism here.
 > 
 > I consider the use of an underscore in the "aria" attribute names to be 
 > unacceptable from an HTML5 point of view, for the reasons I detailed in my 
 > last e-mail in this thread. I have not seen any rational and valid 
 > arguments against using the hyphen. I would also be happy with no 
 > delimiter at all (ariadisabled, ariachecked).
 > 
 > 
 > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
 > >
 > > underscore works fine too and we don't run into the hyphen problem in 
 > > SVG.
 > 
 > The underscore _doesn't_ work fine too, for the reasons I listed in my 
 > earlier e-mail in this thread. On the other hand, the hyphen works 
 > absolutely fine in SVG, indeed it is how SVG works in general -- almost 
 > all its attributes are hyphen separated! Any attributes we add to that 
 > namespace *should* use hyphens specifically for that reason.
 > 
 > -- 
 > Ian Hickson               U+1047E                )\._.,--....,'``.    fL
 > http://ln.hixie.ch/       U+263A                /,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
 > Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

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