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RE: [SVGMobile12] SVGT12-207: <textArea> redundant with HTML

From: Doug Schepers <doug@schepers.cc>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 03:32:20 -0500
To: "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>, <www-svg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20051229083216.D84F1BE8B@pillage.dreamhost.com>

Hi, Ian-

Ian Hickson
| I object to the inclusion of the <textArea> feature in SVG 
| Tiny 1.2.

I counter-object to the idea of its removal.

| It appears to be no more than a poor man's HTML, 

Hardly. While SVG Tiny only describes rectangular shapes for text-wrapping,
it is anticipated (as you well know) that the superset of this spec, SVG
Full 1.2, will allow wrapping to arbitrary shapes, a facility completely
lacking in HTML+CSS. 

| dramatically lacking in semantics

As I've stated before, HTML cannot lay claim to rich semantics. There is
nothing stopping an author from using inline XML semantics (properly
namespaced) inside a 'textArea', far surpassing any semantic properties HTML
might have.
|  and presentational controls. 

Please explain what you mean by this. Is SVG not capable of such features as
italics, bolding, underlining, and font-size? 

| It is already possible to achieve 
| any effect that <textArea> introduces, using <foreignObject> 

...assuming a mixed-NS document, which is not always going to be the case,
especially given SVG Tiny's stance on CSS.

| and embedded content styled using CSS' rich 
| formatting properties.

Please provide an example in HTML+CSS that will allow wrapping to an
arbitrary shape, and I will concede.

| Please remove the <textArea> feature from SVG Tiny 1.2.

WG, please keep the <textArea> feature in SVG Tiny 1.2, and expand it to
arbitrary shapes in SVG Full 1.2.


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