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RE: SVG 1.2 Comment: 4 Flowing text and graphics

From: Doug Schepers <doug@schepers.cc>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:24:14 -0500
To: "'Peter Sorotokin'" <psorotok@adobe.com>, "'Cameron McCormack'" <cam-www-svg@aka.mcc.id.au>, <www-svg@w3.org>
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Just for the record, I hope everyone realizes that I was not in any way
suggesting the introduction of poetry (or any other non-geometric) semantics
into SVG. (Although, now that I think of it... No, no! Never mind.) I was
just saying that XHTML ('p', in this case) is only barely more semantic than
SVG ('text') , with respect to domain-specific terminology.

That being said, of course you could use sXBL or XSLT to represent PoetryML
in SVG (with colored, decorated, aligned filtered, shaped, SVGFontified text
bound to that tagset), or in HTML+CSS. Hardly a primary use case, though.

Shall we close this thread?


Peter Sorotokin wrote:
| At 05:53 PM 11/4/2004 +1100, Cameron McCormack wrote:
| >Peter Sorotokin:
| > > Well, if you want to use <metaphor> and <smile>, you 
| probably also 
| > > should use <spacecraft> as well (not simply a drawing of 
| spacecraft) 
| > > and use something like XSLT stylesheet to transform it into the 
| > > final-form SVG.  Mixing <svg:path> with <metaphor> does 
| not seem to 
| > > be particularly appropriate.
| >
| >I think in general XSLT is not so good for generating SVG from XML 
| >data,
| Possibly. My main point is that SVG is presentational and if 
| you want to have real semantic mark-up than you have to 
| generate SVG out of it. XSLT and SVG can be used together 
| today in simple, but practical cases (and text-in-the shape 
| is very useful there, would not you agree?), but for complex 
| transformations a custom transformer has to be written. But 
| <metaphor> is just as inappropriate in SVG as it is in 
| XSL:FO, at least not until you can have <spacecraft> as well.
| Peter
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