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Re: Towards resolution of SVG 1.2 Flowing text

From: Peter Sorotokin <psorotok@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:55:07 -0800
To: "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@ocallahan.org>, Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Cc: www-svg@w3.org
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At 03:26 PM 11/2/2004 -0500, Robert O'Callahan wrote:

>Chris Lilley wrote:
>>On Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 8:27:02 PM, Robert wrote:
>>ROC> Chris Lilley wrote:
>>>>Or alternatively, that the definition of a para is presentational. 
>>>>Which it is, as in languages like HTML which sit somewhere in the 
>>>>middle of the continuum from abstraction to concreteness.
>>ROC> Then what exactly is the defined presentational behaviour of a ROC> 
>>paragraph, and how does it differ from a DIV?
>>paragraphs, like divs, are a block of text that starts on a new line and
>>whose following block of text also starts on a new line. This is why I
>>said they are mid way along the continuum.
>Right OK, but if you agree SVG text is purely presentational and flowPara 
>and flowDiv have identical presentation, then why not remove flowPara in 
>favour of flowDiv?

flowDiv can only be used on the top level (and there can be only a single 
flowDiv per set of regions) and flowPara can only be used inside of the 
flowDiv. flowDiv effectively switches from graphics layout to text layout 
(similarly to svg:text element), flowPara acts more like a tspan. They are 
quite different elements.

flowLine and flowPara perhaps could be made into a single element. I would 
be against it because even in raw ASCII text with explicit line breaks this 
difference is there (lines are separated by '\n' and paragraphs by '\n\n'). 
I think if ASCII can do it SVG should be allowed to do it too.


>Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org>
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