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Re: CSS WG comments on SVG 1.2

From: Peter Sorotokin <psorotok@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:06:55 -0800
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Dean Jackson <dean@w3.org>, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>, Antoine Quint <ml@graougraou.com>, www-svg@w3.org
Message-id: <5.2.0.9.2.20041207170234.034ffc38@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com>

At 10:57 PM 12/7/2004 +0000, Ian Hickson wrote:
>On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Peter Sorotokin wrote:
> > >
> > > However, my concern is that SVG 1.2's proposed names are actually
> > > harming this property separation, in fact. For example, it introduces
> > > the 'background-fill' property despite that property having nothing to
> > > do with any of the other 'background-*' properties.
> >
> > CSS box model background properties to be precise; just like CSS box
> > model background properties are more or less useless for SVG renderer.
> > These things are renderer-specific. But in that particular case I agree
> > that it is a good idea to rename it to avoid confusion.
>
>The 'background' properties apply to the block box model, the inline box
>model, the table box model, the XUL box model, the MathML box model,
>positioned elements, floats... It's not limited to a particular rendering
>model. The same applies to most of the properties in CSS.

These are close relatives of CSS box model, of course. For anything truly 
different these properties would still be useless (or mean something else). 
It is a bit like Microsoft cross-platform development: "it runs on both 
Windows NT and 95".

Peter



> > >  It introduces one-word
> > > properties that only apply to specific models (one-word properties in CSS
> > > usually apply to multiple models).
> >
> > What?! Just from the top of my head:
> >
> > margin, border, padding, top, bottom, left, right, width, height, widows
>
>All of the above except "widows" apply to multiple rendering models. For
>example, 'right' is used by the relative, absolute, and fixed positioning
>models. 'height' is used by almost all the rendering models except SVG.
>And so forth.
>
>In fact, even 'widows', which currently only applies to the pagination
>model, is being considered for other models -- in particular, there is a
>proposal to make it apply to the column rendering model.
>
>--
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