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Re: [svg-developers] scrollbars in SVG

From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:23:30 +0200
Message-ID: <147233565890.20030411122330@w3.org>
To: AndrewWatt2001@aol.com
CC: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, www-svg@w3.org

On Friday, April 11, 2003, 10:28:15 AM, AndrewWatt2001 wrote:

Aac> In a message dated 10/04/2003 22:09:26 GMT Daylight Time, chris@w3.org 
Aac> writes:

>> sv> Why am I not getting scrollbars
>> Because that is not the only scrolling mechanism. 

Aac> Chris,

Aac> Which other scrolling mechanisms are provided?

Provided and possible are different things.

Aac> Panning is not scrolling.

No, but the converse is true. Scrolling is one way of panning.

Aac> Quite straightforward in my view - SVG should provide scroll bars
Aac> for use where it is desired / appropriate. Omitting them was a
Aac> major faux pas in my view.

Aac> The omission of automatic scroll bars in a desktop environment
Aac> removes, wholly unnecessarily, a useful and powerful navigation
Aac> metaphor in standalone SVG. If, as I understand it, some users
Aac> wish not to have scroll bars (I don't recall having heard a
Aac> convincing argument for that position) then by all means provide
Aac> a switch to turn them off.

Having seen implementations (not necessarily of SVG, but for example
CGM) that *always* put up scrollbars and thus, are totally unsuitable
for many uses of graphics, I think that not forcing them was the right

But it seems clear that people want control over the presentation.

 Chris                            mailto:chris@w3.org
Received on Friday, 11 April 2003 06:49:52 UTC

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