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Re: [OT] ASV etc (was: Re: SVG 1.2 General feedback)

From: Vadim Plessky <plessky@cnt.ru>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 01:01:55 +0300
To: www-svg@w3.org
Message-Id: <200211220101.55131.plessky@cnt.ru>

On Thursday 21 November 2002 3:48 pm, Tobias Reif wrote:
|  Vadim Plessky wrote:
|   > Bug report requires my time, and my time is *money*.
|  All these posts require more time than a quick bug report.

You are wrong.

Besides:  I was even not aware about possibility to report bugs to Adobe, 
before you posted that link.
Sorry but I do not trust to the company who manages its communication with 
customers in such a bad way. 
And IMHO there is no point to communicate with the company you do not trust 

|   > I am not going to contribute money to companies supporting
|   > closed-source.
|   > software. 

| Unless they would justify my time/efforts with reasonable
|   > money.
|  So all your ideology is for sale?

see (a) first.
I used $50 (b) as an example *what* can help Adobe to collect valuable bug 
Frankly, I am not interested in such money, as I earn much, much more.

|  They gave you the viewer you are using for free.

They gave me nothing.

|   > About ASV - is it Adove SVG Viewer?
|  Yes.
|   > Than I guess you interpreted my words in a wrong way.
|   > I *do not use* Adobe SVG Viewer.  I just tested couple (out of 200)
|   > SVG icons,
|   > before making release, to be sure that those icons work with Adobe SVG
|   > viewer.
|  That's using IMHO.

You have very strange perception for word "using"  :-)
When you see advertising banner on some web site - do you use that banner, or 
products from the company who own banner?
Adobe's SVG Viewer is advertising banner for other Adobe products 
(Illustrator, PhotoShop, etc.), that's it.
I have tried it ("clicked" on it), and I don't like it. That's it.  I owe 
nothing to Adobe.

Returning back to SVG specs and Adobe plugin:
* it is very heavy ( a lot of disk space, high memory usage)
* it's slow
* periodically it locks computer
I think it's really anti-SVG product.

SVG designed to be loaded fast, and reduce bandwidth usage.
Using SVG on web page, with some browser & Adobe SVG plugin, results in 
*increased loading time* and *unstable behavior of the system*.

|   > Windows platfrom is *not supported* officially by me.
|   > You use BlueSphere SVG icons on that platform on your own risk :-)
|  SVG is platform & OS independent.

This is simply not true.
Each platform should have SVG renderer.
And as you have noticied before, most of existing renderers available for 
selected platform only.

Like: ASV is avilable for Windows and Mac.
Batik requires Java, together with JRE.

Besides: I think you missed smiley (:-) in my mail...
|  Tobi
|  -- http://www.pinkjuice.com/

Best Regards,

Vadim Plessky
SVG Icons
Received on Friday, 22 November 2002 10:00:52 UTC

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