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Re: X11 Colors (was Last call comments on CSS3 module: color)

From: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:20:07 -0800
To: w3c-css-wg <w3c-css-wg@w3.org>
CC: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>, <www-svg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B9F7E5E7.1A450%tantek@cs.stanford.edu>

Forwarding to CSS-WG.

I am willing to move forward with this in accordance with the resolutions
presented below.

Tantek


On 11/13/02 12:08 AM, "Chris Lilley" <chris@w3.org> wrote:

> Hello Tantek, www-svg,
> 
> In this message,
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2002May/0067.html
> 
> you wrote (replying to 'fantasai'):
> 
>>> The X11 color set can remain an SVG CSS extension;
>> 
>> Unfortunately, that doesn't make any sense, since there is nothing
>> special "SVG"-like about the X11 color set.
>> 
>>> I don't see any reason why it must become part of CSS3:color.
>> 
>> How about the fact that it is already in a REC as noted and
>> interoperably implemented cross-browser and cross-platform in
>> numerous implementations for many years? Certainly much more than
>> can be said about most other technologies in W3C proposals.
> 
> 
> This topic was recently re-discussed in the SVG WG. We resolved:
> 
> a) we do wish to reference the CSS3 color module from SVG, once it is
> at an appropriate level of maturity.
> 
> b) we not wish to deprecate the X11 colors which, as you note, are
> widely and consistently used in both SVG and non-SVG contexts.
> 
> c) we recognise that particular profiles may wish to exclude this
> group of colors. For example, SVG Mobile excludes them.
> 
> Thus, to ensure that we can reference CSS3 color, we call on the CSS
> WG to not deprecate the X11 colors but to include them in the CSS3
> color module and allow particular profiles to include them or not
> include them as they see fit.
> 
> You wrote
> 
>> [...] but I will not deprecate them in CSS3 unless
>> the SVG working group also deprecates in SVG 1.1.
> 
> It seems then that we are in agreement.
> 
Received on Wednesday, 13 November 2002 14:06:54 GMT

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