- From: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:09:13 +0100 (Romance Standard Time)
- To: www-svg@w3.org
Also sprach Chris Lilley: > The eighth version of the Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) specification [1] > has just been released. It re-enters last call. Public comments should be > sent to this list. Comments which are W3C Member internal should be sent to > svg-comments@w3.org > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-20000303 The recently published SVG draft is not merely an incremental change, it's a drastic split of SVG into two languages -- one called "Stylable SVG" and one called "Exchange SVG" -- with different syntax, DTDs and conformance requirements. If the recent draft becomes a W3C Recommendation, implementations and documents will not be interoperable. SVG interpreter A can claim to support SVG without being able to display output from generator B -- even though they both conform to the same specification. Here is a simple example of written in "Stylable SVG": <svg width="400px" height="400px"> <style type="text/css"> text { color: white; fill: blue; font: 10px Helvetica, sans-serif } rect { visibility: visible; fill: red; stroke:blue; stroke-width: 4px; opacity: 0.7 } .em { font-style: bold } </style> <text x="100px" y="30px">This <tspan class="em">is</tspan> important</text> <text x="20px" y="90px">This is <tspan class="em">not</tspan> important</text> <rect x="10px" y="10px" width="50px" height="50px" /> <rect x="200px" y="200px" width="100px" height="100px" /> </svg> And here is the same example in "Exchange SVG": <svg width="400px" height="400px"> <text x="100px" y="30px" color="white" fill="blue" font-size="10px" font-family="Helvetica, sans-serif" font-style="normal font-variant="normal" font-weight="normal">This <tspan font-style="bold">is</tspan> important</text> <text x="20px" y="90px" color="white" fill="blue" font-size="10px" font-family="Helvetica, sans-serif" font-style="normal font-variant="normal" font-weight="normal">This is <tspan font-style="bold">not</tspan> important</text> <rect x="10px" y="10px" width="50px" height="50px" visibility="visible" fill="red" stroke="blue" stroke-width="4px" opacity="0.7" /> <rect x="200px" y="200px" width="100px" height="100px" visibility="visible" fill="red" stroke="blue" stroke-width="4px" opacity="0.7" /> </svg> The purpose of this message is not to argue about which form is the better one (although that could be interesting, too), but to note that the SVG specification now describes two languages -- both of which are called SVG. One of the reasons why people have been supportive of SVG development has been to avoid fragmentation into several vector languages. There have been rounds of applause at Seybold and WWW* conferences to support/push vendors into agreeing on one single language and to avoid vendor-specific solutions like VML and PDF. If SVG comes out as two languages, fragmentation is unavoidable. The W3C has in its charter to lead the World Wide Web and to "ensure its interoperability". Coming out with two languages instead of one is doing exactly the opposite. Regards, -h&kon Chief Technology Officer Opera Software Håkon Wium Lie http://www.opera.com/people/howcome howcome@opera.com gets you there faster
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