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Re: [css-regions] Changed @region rule to ::region() pseudo-element

From: Sylvain Galineau <galineau@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 15:55:42 -0700
To: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com>
CC: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CDB95FA6.453C%galineau@adobe.com>


On 5/15/13 12:08 PM, "Brad Kemper" <brad.kemper@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>On May 15, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/13 4:09 PM, "Brad Kemper" <brad.kemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 14, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 5/13/13 8:55 PM, "Brad Kemper" <brad.kemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Alan Stearns <stearns@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Following the discussion in the earlier thread [1] about the
>>>>>> similarities
>>>>>> between region styling and the ::distributed() pseudo-element, I
>>>>>>have
>>>>>> changed the @region rule to a ::region() functional pseudo-element.
>>>>>> Now
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you want to use region styling to set the color of a fragment of an
>>>>>> element with 'class=bar' that displays inside a CSS Region with
>>>>>> 'id=foo'
>>>>>> you can use:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> #foo::region(.bar) {
>>>>>> color: red;
>>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> I actually greatly preferred the @region syntax, because it was
>>>>>easier
>>>>> for writing several rulesets for how styles should change within a
>>>>> single
>>>>> region. I think it was also much more readable than having the
>>>>>selector
>>>>> chains inside a pseudo-element of another selector chain.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that the @region syntax was more compact for some cases. I
>>>>think
>>>> it's arguable that separating the content selectors from the box
>>>> selector
>>>> made it more readable.
>>> 
>>> Not to my mind. If it is a longish selector to select the region, and
>>> another longish selector to select the proper elements to change within
>>> that region, then one must write a very long selector with the
>>> pseudo-element approach, all on one line. And then one must write the
>>> first part again and again for each separate rule one wants to apply
>>> unique styling to within the region. It doesn't follow DRY principles.
>>> Whereas with the @rule, ones selects the region once, and then has
>>> simpler, shorter selectors for each ruleset being selected within the
>>> region. A little indenting within the style sheet, and one can clearly
>>> see which selectors are children of the region selector.
>> 
>> This is a problem with longish selectors outside of region styling (as
>> Fran├žois mentioned[1]). I think the proper fix
>
>At least you do admit, then, that it is harder to read, and needs some
>sort of fix that the @region version didn't.

I think the point is that such selectors are hard to read everywhere the
pattern happens, not just when styling Regions.
As such a more general selector syntax solution to this kind of nesting
pattern may be more helpful than adding more
at-rules?

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